Henry HALE & Lucy WHITTINGTON (General)

by Dee @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 00:59 (6641 days ago)

Can anyone help? I am looking for the marriage of Henry HALE to Lucy WHITTINGTON which I believe to be abt 1855 in the Coleford area. In 1851 Henry is age 16 and living with his parents Thomas & Ann HALE at Five Acres, near Coleford

In the 1861 Census Henry and Lucy are at Lane End.

Henry & Lucy had the following children: Thomas c1856, Milson c1860, Maryann c1861, Isaac c1864, Rachel c1866, Samuel c1867, Fanny c1870 (my great grandmother), Enoch c1872, Henry c1874, Sydney c1878 and George c1879.

We have been unable to find Fanny HALE, my great grandmother's birth certificate. We were given the name WHITTINGTON by another researcher but have not been able to verify this. Searches for baptisms for Henry & Lucy's children have not brought any results. Has anyone come across these?

Any help would be greatfully appreciated.

Dee

Henry HALE & Lucy WHITTINGTON

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 06:00 (6640 days ago) @ Dee

This entry from Free BMD:
Marriages Jun 1857
Hall Henry Monmouth 11a 82
Whittington Lucy Monmouth 11a 82

Mike

Henry HALE & Lucy WHITTINGTON

by Dee @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 11:33 (6640 days ago) @ shepway

Thank you Michael for responding. I had come across the Monmouth marriage registration for Henry HALL and Lucy WHITTINGTON and wondered if there had been a transcription error. I am applying for the marriage certificate in the hope that it is the right one.

Last month we spent a week in the Forest of Dean and my mother and I had a day at the Gloucestershire Records Office. After searching through Anglican Church records and finding little trace of our HALE family, it crossed our minds whether they could be non-conformist, but as it always does, our time ran out and we had to make our way back to the cottage where we were staying leaving the non-conformaist records for another day.

Thank you again for the baptism information. Now we know which direction to follow. Pity that Lucy's maiden name was not recorded.

Dee

Henry HALE & Lucy WHITTINGTON

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 06:15 (6640 days ago) @ Dee

From Free BMD:
Births Sep 1869
HALE Fanny Monmouth 11a 25

Certificates can be ordered on line. Go to:
http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/research/bmdmain.htm

Mike

Henry HALE & Lucy WHITTINGTON

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 06:48 (6640 days ago) @ Dee

More entries from Free BMD:
Births Dec 1865
Hale Rachel Monmouth 11a 32

Births Sep 1867
Hale Samuel Monmouth 11a 23

Births Dec 1871
Hale Enoch Monmouth 11a 34

Births Sep 1873
Hale Henry Monmouth 11a 27

Births Jun 1877
Hale Sydney Monmouth 11a 32

Births Jun 1879
Hale George Nuneaton 6d 497

and baptisms from Coleford Congregational Chapel Register:
Parents Henry and Lucy
Baptism date Birth date
19 May 1862 17 Oct 1855 HALE Thomas
19 May 1862 5 Sep 1858 HALE Milson
19 May 1862 13 Sep 1860 HALE Mary Ann
8 Mar 1874 27 Aug 1873 HALE Henry

Mike

Lucy WHITTINGTON 1837 Joyford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, September 11, 2006, 20:48 (6640 days ago) @ Dee

as transcribed
JAMES WITHINGTON
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Marriages:
Spouse: HARRIETT HALE
Marriage: 22 JUN 1834 Abinghall, Gloucester, England

1841 Joyford
James Whittington abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
Harriet Whittington abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
Eliza Whittington abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
James Whittington abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire
Lucy Whittington abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Bicknor English Gloucestershire

1851 Incline nrPoolway
Harriett Whithigh abt 1815 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire
Eliza Whithigh abt 1842 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Frances Whithigh abt 1840 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Lucy Whithigh abt 1835 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
William Whithigh abt 1845 Newland, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Newland Gloucestershire

Harriet HALE 1816 Flaxley

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, September 11, 2006, 21:09 (6640 days ago) @ slowhands

Is this Lucy's mother ?


HARRIET HALE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 JUL 1816 Flaxley, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HALE
Mother: BARBARA
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C045151 1562 - 1862 0091527 Film 6911943 Film
Sheet: 00

1841 Flaxley nr Mill
Willm Hale abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Flaxley Gloucestershire Blacksmith
Barbara Hale abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Flaxley Gloucestershire
Willm Hale abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Flaxley Gloucestershire
Jas Hale abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Flaxley Gloucestershire
Willm Hale abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Flaxley Gloucestershire

Thomas WHITTINGTON 1795 Short Standing

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, September 11, 2006, 21:21 (6640 days ago) @ slowhands

Possible "family" for James in nearby ShortStanding


1841 Short standing
Thomas Whittington abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Whittington abt 1761 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Whittington abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Mary Whittington abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

Lucy WHITTINGTON 1837 Joyford

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 22:35 (6640 days ago) @ slowhands

It would appear that James spent some time in Gloucester Gaol:
SURNAME FORENAME COMMITTAL AGE PARISH/TOWN OCCUPATION REF:
WHITTINGTON James 12 Oct 1842 32 English Bicknor Collier Q/Gc5/7

Mike

Lucy WHITTINGTON 1837 Joyford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, September 11, 2006, 22:52 (6640 days ago) @ shepway

was he still there in 1851 !!

Lucy WHITTINGTON 1837 Joyford

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 23:18 (6640 days ago) @ slowhands

Or was it this James:

2444 0359 034 Worrall Hill WHITINGTON James HD M 40 Collier - Bicknor
2444 0359 034 Worrall Hill WHITINGTON Hannah WI M 32 - - Aston
2444 0359 034 Worrall Hill WHITINGTON George SO - 5 - - Bicknor
2444 0359 034 Worrall Hill WHITINGTON Henry SO - 2 - [GLS] High Beech East Dean
2444 0359 034 Worrall Hill HORSON Mary VR W 52 - - Aston
2444 0359 034 Worrall Hill HORSON Samuel VR U 20 Collier - Aston

Mike

Henry HALE 1835 nr Berry Hill

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, September 11, 2006, 20:53 (6640 days ago) @ Dee

1841 ex Parochial nr Perch Lodge
Thomas Hale abt 1794 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Hale abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Hale abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
George Hale abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Henry Hale abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
May Hale abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thomas Hale abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1851 Five Acres
Thomas Hale abt 1793 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Ann Hale abt 1802 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Hale abt 1831 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
George Hale abt 1838 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Hale abt 1835 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Hale abt 1840 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Thos Hale abt 1829 Land End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

Henry HALE 1835 nr Berry Hill

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 21:24 (6640 days ago) @ slowhands

Baptisms from Christchurch Parish Registers:
All took place on 21 May 1840
Parents: Thomas and Anne HALE
Abode: Coleford Lane End
Occupation: Collier
Thomas aged 11 years
Eliza aged 9 years
George aged 3 years
Mary no age given
Henry aged 5 years
Minister: T.R. Garnsey

Mike

Henry HALE 1835 nr Berry Hill

by shepway @, Monday, September 11, 2006, 21:49 (6640 days ago) @ slowhands

From GFHS Marriage Index:
5 June 1824 Thomas HALE, Widower of Hundred of St Briavels married Anne BROWN of Hundred of St Briavels at Newland

This may be burial of first wife:
Date: 4 APR 1819
First Name: JANE
Surname: HALE
Age: 25
Burial Register: RUARDEAN 1813-1829
Place of Abode: COLFORD
City of Abode: -
Relationship: WIFE
Relationship To: THOMAS

From IGI:
6 May 1815 Thomas HALE married Jane WILLIAMS at Hope Mansell.

Mike

Henry HALE & Lucy WHITTINGTON

by Dee @, Friday, September 15, 2006, 09:41 (6636 days ago) @ Dee

I am very grateful to both Michael and Slowhands for all the information they have posted here. This is my second attempt to post my thanks, not sure what happened to my first.

You both certainly have given me something to work on - it will take me a while to digest all this. If that James WHITTINGTON is 'mine' then that will make the third jailbird in my family!! The HALEs are from my Dad's side so I guess things might be evening up as the other two are on my Mum's and they were husband and wife. He went inside because he stole and she because she assaulted her husband!!

Once again many thanks.
Dee

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