Tracing William harrison (General)
by Rgharrison 
, Thursday, May 23, 2013, 16:20 (4197 days ago)
On 11/01/1797 a William Harrison married Charlotte Mabbett, who was the daughter of Jane Colchester originating from Westbury Court. The marriage took place at Newnham Parish Coleford. At the time of the marriage Harrisons residence was shown as Penmark nr Cardiff and they subsequently moved to Merthyr where both later passed away, leaving several children. Enquiries show that William Harrison may in fact have been born in the Gloucester area. I have been unable to trace William Harrison back any further than the marriage in 1797. Can anyone help?
It is possible that his mother was named Emily. There is a family grave in the Merthyr area where an Emily Harrison is buried on 03/02/1826 aged 78. This would give her a birthdate approx 1748. I believe William to have been born 1773(possibly 1776)
Any help on either Harrison would be gratefully received. Thanks
William HARRISON 1771 Newnham ?
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 23, 2013, 16:34 (4197 days ago) @ Rgharrison
On 11/01/1797 a William Harrison married Charlotte Mabbett, who was the daughter of Jane Colchester originating from Westbury Court. The marriage took place at Newnham Parish Coleford. At the time of the marriage Harrisons residence was shown as Penmark nr Cardiff and they subsequently moved to Merthyr where both later passed away, leaving several children. Enquiries show that William Harrison may in fact have been born in the Gloucester area. I have been unable to trace William Harrison back any further than the marriage in 1797. Can anyone help?
It is possible that his mother was named Emily. There is a family grave in the Merthyr area where an Emily Harrison is buried on 03/02/1826 aged 78. This would give her a birthdate approx 1748. I believe William to have been born 1773(possibly 1776)
Any help on either Harrison would be gratefully received. Thanks
Year: 1771
Month: Oct
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: HARRISON
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Newnham
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: Thos extended to Thomas
Register_Reference: P228 IN 1/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Newnham
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William HARRISON 1771 Newnham ?
by Rgharrison , Thursday, May 23, 2013, 19:32 (4197 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks but not sure if its the right one. .any more info on him or others anyone.
William HARRISON 1771 Newnham ?
by Rgharrison , Thursday, May 23, 2013, 19:36 (4197 days ago) @ Rgharrison
Ages were a bit hit and miss in those days, so it could possibly be the right one but I need to tie him into Charlotte Mabbett to be convinced. Help.
William HARRISON 1771 Newnham (STEEL)
by m p griffiths , Friday, May 24, 2013, 10:59 (4196 days ago) @ Rgharrison
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There may be a STEEL connection which might link the marriage of William HARRISON to Charlotte MABBETT at Newland on the 11 January 1797 - witnesses: Mary STEEL and Thos BOND
and on the 2 November 1799
Thomas HARRISON of Newland, Batchelor, married Mary STEEL - spinster, Newland, by Licence, witnesses: Elizabeth STEEL and Thos. BOND.
William & Thomas - brothers????
(what are the family names of the children of William & Charlotte HARRISON?)
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Gloucestershire Gen Database hold Wills of HARRISON, Newnham, inc. Thomas HARRISON 1793 (aged 50 on For records)
William HARRISON 1771 Newnham (STEEL)
by Rgharrison , Friday, May 24, 2013, 11:55 (4196 days ago) @ m p griffiths
William and Charlotte had the following children.
Maynard Colchester 1807 (Kidwelly)
HaRRIET 1811
Richard 1813
Loisa Amelia 1821
Possibly there was a William Harry or Henry baptised in Cardiff in 1800 as well
William HARRISON 1773 Devonport (DEV)?
by bexxi , Thursday, June 06, 2013, 15:34 (4183 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Re the Thomas HARRISON / Mary STEEL marriage: a Thomas and Mary Harrison can be found on the 1851 census in Feckenham, Worcestershire. He was born Devonport, Devon in about 1775 and she was born in Newland in about 1772. Thomas was a surgeon and general practitioner.
There is a Stoke Damerel baptism for 2 February 1775, son of Thomas and Grace (nee PRUDALL) Harrison. Thomas and Grace had other children, among them a William baptised at Stoke Damerel 30 March 1773. Maybe this is your man?
About Mary Steel (in case you're interested):
Record_ID: 246486
Year: 1771
Month: Nov
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: STEEL
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: Elmes
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname: [nee Benfield - info added by bexxi]
Residence: Coleford
Event: Baptism
Notes: missing from BT's
Register_Reference: P227 IN 4/1
Page_Number: 333
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: S340
You'll find Thomas and Mary's children in the Lydney baptisms.
Best,
Rebecca
William HARRISON 1773 Devonport (DEV)?
by m p griffiths , Thursday, June 06, 2013, 15:57 (4183 days ago) @ bexxi
Thomas & Mary HARRISON are on the 1841 Census for Feckenham, Worcestershire
Thomas HARRISON - 63, Surgeon, not born in County
Mary HARRISON - 64 - born in County
On the 1851 census - it states he has been a "Surgeon in Practice 1799"
Baptisms (as mentioned in previous reply)
Thomas & Mary HARRISON - at Lydney
Neville Elmes - 3 September 1800 **
Thomas Samuel - 7 January 1802
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1851 Census, Glamorgan, Llantrisant
Swan Street
HARRISON
Nevill E - 52, General Practioner - born Glos. Sawsford
Anne E - 54 - born Letton, Somerset
Thomas W - 18 - born Cowbridge, Glam
John- 16 - ditto
Neville E - 10 - born Llantrisant
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Ancestry: Probate
HARRISON Elmes Edward Richard
10 May 1859
The Will of Elmes Edward Richard HARRISON late of Brook Villa Blakeney in the Parish of Awre in the County of Gloucester Surgeon deceased who died 14 March 1859 at Brook Villa aforesaid was proved at Gloucester by the oath of Mary Ann HERBERT of Brook Villa aforesaid Widow the sole Executrix. Effects under £100
Elmes Edward Richard HARRISON - Divorce papers
by m p griffiths , Thursday, June 06, 2013, 16:21 (4183 days ago) @ m p griffiths
On Ancestry UK Civil Divorce Records - 1858 - 1911 (bit of Scandal!!!)
UK Civil Divorce Records - 1858 (handwritten document)
Harrison vs Harrison
Case for Counsel to move the Court for directions as to mode of trial)
Filed 10 November 1858
Petition of Ann Harrison Wife of Elms Edward Richard Harrison for a Judical Separation
- and Filed 27 November 1858
In Her Majesty's Court for Divorce and Matrominial Causes
Harrison v Harrison
(Stamped with Matrimonital Cause Fee)
This ia a Cause instituted by Anne Harrison against Elms Edward Richard Harrison praying for a Judicial Separation by reason of Cruelty.
On the fifteenth of November instant a Citation was personally serve on the said Elms Edward Richard Harrison.
No appearance having been given on behalf of the said Elms Edward Richard Harrison the usual Affidavit has been made.
Counsel will be instructed to move the Right Honourable the Judge to decide in what way the above Cause is to be heard.
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To the Judge Ordinary of Her Majesty's Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes.
The Fourth day of November 1858
The Petition of Anne Harrison of Buckholt Villa in the Parish of Cranham in the County of Gloucester
Showeth
First.
That on the Fourth day of January One Thousand eight hundred and thirty your Petition then Ann PEACH Spinster was lawfully married to Elms Edward Richard Harrison at the Parish Church of Abergavenny in the County of Monmouth.
Second.
That after her said marriage your Petitioner lived and cohabited with her said Husband at Blakeney in the Parish of Awre in the County of Gloucester and that your Petition and her said Husband have had no Issue of their said marriage.
Third.
That shortly after this said marriage the said Elms Edward Richard Harrison began to exhibit great violence of temper towards your Petition and thenceforth up to the time of her being compelled to quit his house in the Month of May One thousand eight hundred and forty four treated her with great cruelty: that the said Elms Edward Richard Harrison on divers occasions abused your Petition in violent and offensive langauge, dragged her out of bed, violently assaulted her and one onccasion struck her so violently upon her head with a ruler that she fell back in a chair stunned with the blow' and that by reason of the said Elms Edward Richard Harrison's said violence and ill treatment your Petition was kept in a constant state of anxiety and alarm and her healthy was maternally impaired.
Your Petitioner therefore humbly prays that your Lordship will be pleased to decree that your Peititioner be judically separated from her said Husband the said Elms Edward Richard Harrison and that your Petitioner may have such further and other relief in the premises as to your Lordship may seem meet And Your Petition will even pray
Ann Harrison
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As the Probate states, Elmes Edward Richard HARRISON died 14 March 1859 at Brook Villa Blakeney - wonder what he died of? - Mary Ann HERBERT is stated as the Widow
Elmes Edward Richard HARRISON - born 1805
by bexxi , Thursday, June 06, 2013, 16:47 (4183 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Searching on findmypast, I found a Laugharne (CMN) baptism for Elmes Edward HARRISON dated 1 September 1805 (date of birth is recorded as 11 August the same year), son of Thomas Harrison, Gent and Mary his wife. There is also an Eliza Amelia Maria, born 22 February 1807 and baptised 9 March 1807 to the same parents.
Laugharne is, as the crow flies across the estuary, only a couple of miles from St Ishmael, where on 9 August 1807 Maynard Colchester HARRISON, son of Mr William Harrison, was baptised.
Best,
Rebecca
Elmes Edward Richard HARRISON - born 1805
by Rgharrison , Thursday, June 06, 2013, 21:10 (4182 days ago) @ bexxi
Many thanks all for your responses. The current position is that William Harrison born 1773 registered the baptism of Maynard Harrison in St Ishmaels as stated above. William married a Charlotte Mabbett in Coleford Gloster in 1796 and at the time gave his residence as Penmark which is in the Vale outside Cardiff. Why he was in the Kidwelly area we don't know. William and Maynard then move to the Merthyr area nd are there from about 1807' with Willam dying and being buried in St. John's church merthyr. I have been able to trace Maynard and his descendants, but am having problems with Williams parents. I have no knowledge of his parents names or where he was born.
In summary he was born 1773, ascertained from the 1841 census in which he gives his age as 68, provided that he knew his birthdate!!!
He gave Penmark as his place of residence when he married in 1797 at Coleford.
In 1800 he had two children baptised in Cardiff area and Maynard was baptised in st Ishmaels in 1807.
Then moved to Merthyr and had further children baptised in Merthyr, Harriet,Ricard and Louisa, and died in 1847 at Merthyr.
It is possible he is originally from Gloster but I have nothing to evidence that fact, so if anyone can add anything I would be grateful.
Elmes Edward Richard HARRISON - born 1805
by Rgharrison , Friday, June 07, 2013, 12:58 (4182 days ago) @ Rgharrison
Hi everyone, I have just had another good read of all the posts above, my previous response sent late last night was a bit rushed as I was still trying to get my head round all the names and links, it was a little confusing.
From what I can see this does look very promising, I need to get it all down on paper and figure it all out, but I do think you are on to something, especially with the locations over in West Wales.
Previously we had been chasing Williams but for you to follow Thomas appears the way to go. I am not sure if there will be concrete proof linking them all together but will definitely concentrate on this route.
Thanks for all the time and effort you have obviously put in so far, we really appreciate it.
I will post some updates with anything else I come across.
Many thanks
Richard
Robert HARRISON
by m p griffiths , Friday, June 07, 2013, 13:25 (4182 days ago) @ Rgharrison
On the Church of Latter Day Saints - other children born to the HARRISONS's (Thomas - mother Grace at Stoke D)
Thomas - 4 June 1769 (assume died)
George - 20 June 1771
John - 10 March 1780
William - 30 June 1773
Thomas - 2 February 1775
James - 2 January 1777
Samuel - 26 May 1778
Amelia - 20 October 1787
Robert - 2 July 1786
On the 1851 Census for Monmouth Newchurch East
Upper......
HARRISON
Robert - 65 - Pensioner from the Army - born Devon, Stoke
Eliza - 45 - born Wiltshire, Wooton River
Mary Grace HARRISON - 12 - born Blakeney, Glos
Thomas HARRISON - 8 - born Blakeney, Glos (GlosBDM - mother's maiden name, could be RILIN)
John HARRISON - 5 - born Blakeney, Glos
Robert HARRISON
by Rgharrison , Friday, June 07, 2013, 13:34 (4182 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Thats excellent, I was just in the process of gathering all the childrens names for Thomas and Grace and you have beaten me to it.
The names Thomas, John, William, Amelia and Robert all appear further down the tree.
Robert HARRISON/Eliza RILIN + STEELE
by m p griffiths , Friday, June 07, 2013, 13:41 (4182 days ago) @ Rgharrison
1841 Census, Awre
HARRISON
Robert - 50 Gen Lab
Eliza - 30
Robert - 11
William - 9
Eliza - 7
Amelia - 5
Mary - 2 (only one born in the County)
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In previous reply from Glosbdm - mother's maiden name for Thomas was RILIN and Mary Grace HARRISON - 1838 is (RILEN) **
However, you will find Mary G HARRISON - age 22 (born River, Glos - a mixture of her mother's place of birth etc) - at Raglan, Monmouthshire with a daughter Eliza - age 1)
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Ancestry have the Marriage at Westminster St Marylebone - 20 August 1826
Robert HARRISON of this Parish - bachelor
and
Eliza RILIN of this parish by Banns
witnesses: Mary GLAPHER and D COOPER
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Ancestry does have a baptism at St Marylebone Christ Church
Amelia Eliza - born 4 October 1827 - and christened 9 December 1827 - parents Robert (Painter) & Eliza, 21 Braced? Street
assume this Amelia died - as we have Amelia age 5 on the 1841 census
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re: HARRISON/STEELE connections ???
fod Records
Marriage at Monmouth - 27 June 1851
Thomas HANCOCK, bachelor, occupation: Inland Revenue Officer
residence: of this Parish
married
Amelia Mary Grace HARRISON age 20, Spinster, of this parish
father: HARRISON
Forename: William Henry Steele - accountant
witnesses: WHS HARRISON, Laura HARRISON
1851 Census, Monnow Street, Monmouth
William H S HARRISON - 48 - Manager Clerk to Attorney, born Sandford Hall, Glos
Susan - 40 - School Mistress, born Coleford
Amelia M S - 20 - born Cumdown, Somerset
Laura L - - 17 - ditto
Geroge - 15 - ditto
Henrietta - H S - 6 - born Monmouth
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1841 Census, Glam, Merthyr Tydfil
Canal House
HARRISON
William - 68 - Accountant, not born in County
Charlotte - 68
Harriet - 30
Louisa - 20
Richard - 28
Martha - 25
Louisa - 1
Jane WILLIAMS, 20 F/S - not born in County
Robert HARRISON/Eliza RILIN + STEELE
by Rgharrison , Friday, June 07, 2013, 14:56 (4182 days ago) @ m p griffiths
William Henry Steele Harrison, is he the son of Thomas harrison and Mary Steele?
This last connection has confused me, cant quite get what you mean?
and this bit...
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In previous reply from Glosbdm - mother's maiden name for Thomas was RILIN and Mary Grace HARRISON - 1838 is (RILEN) **
However, you will find Mary G HARRISON - age 22 (born River, Glos - a mixture of her mother's place of birth etc) - at Raglan, Monmouthshire with a daughter Eliza - age 1)
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sorry!
William Henry Steele HARRISON/Susannah?
by m p griffiths , Saturday, June 08, 2013, 12:03 (4181 days ago) @ Rgharrison
'William Henry Steele HARRISON is he the son of Thomas HARRISON & Mary Steel' .......
Assume you don't know as yet, the parentage of William H S HARRISON age 48 on the 1851 census, born Sandford Hall, Glos - married to Susan (maiden name as yet unknown) - age 40, School Mistress, born Coleford.
Here's the 1861 Census, Newport, St Woolos - which has the mother Mary HARRISON living with them
W H S HARRISON - 57 - born Glos. Sandford
Susan HARRISON - 49 - born Coleford
H M HARRISON - 16
Mary HARRISON - 89 - born Coleford
R M J HANCOCK grandchild - 5 (this would be Amelia & Thomas HANCOCK's son)
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There is a tree on Ancestry with the 1841 census at Monmouth, Church Yard
Hester GIBBON - 30 - Schoolmistress - not born in County
Susan HARRISON - 30 - not born in County (born in Coleford 1851 census)
Amelia HARRISON - 10 - not born in County * this is Amelia Mary Grace - wedding information previous reply
Laura HARRISON - 8 not born in County (on Ancestry Public Members Tree - Laura Louisa Ann HARRISON
Eliza HARRISON - 6 - not born in County (on Ancestry Public Members Tree - Georgina Eliza
and the 3 girls all born in Cumdown, Somerset - no sign of William.
However, on the Church of Latter Day Saints
Baptisms - at Monmouth
- Laura Louisa HARRISON - 17 January 1844 - parents William Henry Steel HARRISON and Susannah
- Henrietta Mary Dew HARRISON - 4 February 1845 - parents William Henry Steel HARRISON and Susannah
- Georgina Eliza HARRISON at Monmouth - 10 August 1845 : Birth date - 9 February 1835
parents William Henry Steel HARRISON and Susannah
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also on CLDS (not sure if this fits in anywhere?)
Death in Walpole, Halimand, Ontario
William Henry Steel HARRISON - age 84 (c1830) born England
Parents: Thomas Samuel HARRISON and Amelis Tip....on
William Henry Steele HARRISON/Susannah?
by Rgharrison , Saturday, June 08, 2013, 15:55 (4181 days ago) @ m p griffiths
That does make more sense than the William Henry Harrison born in in Cardiff at 1800 as that would be William Harrisons son.
And as Mary is on that census it makes sense for her to be Mary Steel born 1772 so being 89 in 1861 is about right. Leaving WHS harrison to be the son of thomas 1775 and mary steel. Strange that we have the other children, neville elmes, thomas samuel, elmes edward and eliza amelia but no Willam H S Harrison on birth record though.
A lot of my research I have done on find my past, but lots of these census results do not appear on there so not sure what I am doing wrong. I did find a William Harrison born Merthyr 1801 on an 1861 census who is down as a visitor, possibly visiting his daughter Mary 'jardan' born merthyr 1830, may not be a link.
Thanks, I can tell you certinly know what your doing with all this, the connections you are finding are very impressive.
W H HARRISON
by m p griffiths , Saturday, June 08, 2013, 18:08 (4181 days ago) @ Rgharrison
There is on the 1851 Census for Wales
Bridge Inn
staying with Jane duffield - 71 - Innkeeper + family
W H HARRISON - married - age 50 - Mineral Surveyor, born Glos. Lidney
William HARRISON/Charlotte MABBETT
by m p griffiths , Saturday, June 08, 2013, 19:49 (4180 days ago) @ m p griffiths
As the link has got too long - this is a new thread....
William HARRISON married Charlotte MABBETT - 11 January 1797 at Newnham - subsequently moved to Merthyr - and 'Reg' - thinks there was a son William Harry or Henry baptised in Cardiff - 1800.
1851 Wales, Risca, Monmouthshire
Staying at the Bridge Inn
W H Harrison - age 50 married - Mineral Surveyor, born Gloucestershire, Lidney
1861 Census, Glamorgan - Eglwysilan
Lodging
William HARRISON - age 60 married - Mining Engineer, - born Meythyr Tydfil
1871 Census, Glamorgan - Glamorgan
Lodging
Wm H HARRISON - 70 Widower, Mining Engineer, born Glamorgan
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Church of Latter Day Saints - Wales Births and Baptisms
Charlotte HARRISON
christening : 9 November 1829
Christening place: Pont-Morlais English Weslyan, Merythyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
birth date: 12 September 1829
father's name: William H HARRISON
mother's name: Mary M
and
Robert Henry HARRISON - 27 November 1831, at Merthyr Tydfil
parents: Wm Henry HARRISON & Mary
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English & Wales - Non-conformist Records
Elizabeth Harriet HARRISON
22 May 1827, Newport, Monmouthshire
father's name: William Henry HARRISON
mother's name: Mary HARRISON
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Can't find Mary, Elizabeth or Charlotte on census returns to confirm -
Robert HARRISON
by Rgharrison , Friday, June 07, 2013, 14:49 (4182 days ago) @ m p griffiths
Definite connection there, you have done some fantastic work there, not sure how you managed it, im still trying to get my head round all the connections. Think I need to draw it up and view it that way.
Thanks again for spending so much time on this!