Mary Ann Thomas married Wm. West. 1872 (General)

by crossy @, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 08:52 (4178 days ago)

Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.
Parents. James & Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas. Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.

Mary Ann WEST possible sighting

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 08:56 (4178 days ago) @ crossy

Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.
Parents. James & Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas. Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.


starting to look like one to discard / re-check original posting

1901
George T West abt 1848 Greenwich, Wiltshire, England Head South Mimms, Middlesex Police Constable
Mary Ann West abt 1847 Gloucestershire, England Wife South Mimms, Middlesex
Blase M West abt 1887 Potters Bar Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Jame West abt 1899 Potters Bar Grandson South Mimms, Middlesex

1891
George T West abt 1848 Greenwich Head South Mimms, Middlesex
May A West abt 1847 Wotton Under Ba, Gloucestershire, England Wife South Mimms, Middlesex
Alice J West abt 1873 Kinbert, Town Midde Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Ada K West abt 1877 Kinbert, Town Midde Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Daisy M West abt 1881 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Linda E West abt 1883 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Violet C West abt 1886 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Olive M West abt 1887 P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex


1881
George West abt 1847 Greenwich, Kent, England Head South Mimms, Middlesex
Mary West abt 1848 Wotton und Edge, Gloucestershire, England Wife South Mimms, Middlesex
Alice West abt 1873 London, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Margaret West abt 1875 London, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Ada West abt 1877 London, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex
Daisy West P Bar, Middlesex, England Daughter South Mimms, Middlesex

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Sarah Ann BEALE married Wm. WEST 1872

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 09:16 (4178 days ago) @ crossy

Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.
Parents. James & Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas. Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.

Year: 1872
Month: Dec
Day: 29
Grooms_Surname: WEST
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miller
Grooms_Residence: Bilson
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: West
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miller
Brides_Surname: BEALE
Brides_Forenames: Sarah Ann
Brides_Age: 28
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Bilson
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Beale (deceased)
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: William Broom
Witness_2: Mark of Harriet Broom
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 49
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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Mary Ann THOMAS married Joseph RUDGE 1872

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 09:18 (4178 days ago) @ crossy

Hi . Anyone researching this family. Mary Ann Thomas. born 1848. Westbury on Severn.
Parents. James & Susannah. nee Hallier. Thomas. Mary Ann married Wm West at Westbury on Severn in 1872.Did this couple stay in the area or move on.

This doesnt seem to fit your Mary Thomas


Year: 1872
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: RUDGE
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Drapers Assistant
Grooms_Residence: Bilson
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Rudge (deceased)
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: THOMAS
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Bilson
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Draper
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: S. Richardson
Witness_2: Harriet Hopkins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 49
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

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William West marries ????, W-o-S in 1872

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 21:18 (4177 days ago) @ slowhands

Evening Slowhands and Crossy,

Slowhands, are you suggesting that Crossy may have things confused ???.

I ask as, before seeing your replies, I started searching the 1881 Census UK-wide for Mary Ann West born abt 1840/1850s, spouse William. Where-ever I looked I kept coming back to the following possibilities with the first being my strong favourite, thinking maybe it was a transcription error and should read Mary not Sarah. On now seeing your replies I now realise it seems to match your first posted marriage;

Name: Sarah Ann West
Age (Original): 36
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1845
Birthplace: Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: ((Duster Tinworks))
Address: Well Tump
Event Place: East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341609
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2522 / 34
Page Number: 12
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 35 Roughton, Wiltshire, England
Wife Sarah Ann West F 36 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Stepson Tom Bale M 11 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Daughter Caroline West F 7 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Daughter Ruth West F 5 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England

When I realised this seemed to match your 1872 Marriage, I tried to find the original marriage as posted by Crossy, as I suspect you have tried too. However according to FreeBMD and GlosBMD the only W-o-S 1872 Marriages are;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BEALE Sarah Ann Westbury S. 6a 462
RUDGE Joseph Westbury S. 6a 462
THOMAS Mary Ann Westbury S 6a 462
WEST William Westbury S. 6a 462

GlosBMD confirms this site's PRs and your post that one of the above marriages is;

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
WEST William - BEALE Sarah Ann - Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1872 2 98
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

SO... to me this suggests Crossy has got their lines crossed, I think you may also think so too Slowhands, please clarify/help, thanks muchly

???



My other less-favoured possibilities from the 1881 Census, but perhaps worthy of further work, were as follows. But am I now searching the wrong couple ??

Name: Mary Ann West
Age (Original): 38
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1843
Birthplace: Blaina, Monmouthshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dress Maker
Address: 21 Cross Street
Event Place: Llanover, Monmouthshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342261
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5237 / 87
Page Number: 41
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 39 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Wife Mary Ann West F 38 Blaina, Monmouthshire, England
Daughter Ruth West F 12 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Daughter Hannah M West F 6 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Mother In Law Elizabeth Allender F 67 Cwmyoy, Herefordshire, England


Name: Mary West
Age (Original): 31
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1850
Birthplace: Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Wife Of Manufacturer
Address: 65 Oxford Street
Event Place: Swansea (Town), Glamorganshire, Wales
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342291
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5357 / 131
Page Number: 12
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 45 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales
Wife Mary West F 31 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales


Name: Mary West
Age (Original): 35
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1846
Birthplace: Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Address: 7 Arlington St
Event Place: Stockton Upon Tees, Durham, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342178
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4899 / 133
Page Number: 8
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Wm West M 35 Wales
Wife Mary West F 35 Wales
Daughter Mary West F 7 Stockton On Tees
Son J G West M 4 Stockton On Tees
Son Thos West M 3 Stockton On Tees
Lodger J Mc Kenna M 20 Hartlepool, Durham, England


Name: Mary Ann West
Age (Original): 29
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1852
Birthplace: Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Address: 14 Hinton Road
Event Place: Hereford St Martin, Herefordshire, Wales
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341625
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2595 / 59
Page Number: 3
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 27 Kilpeck, Herefordshire, Wales
Wife Mary Ann West F 29 Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales
Daughter Nelly West F 6 Birmingham, Warwickshire, Wales
Daughter Ada West F 5 Bambury, Oxfordshire, Wales
Son William West M 2 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales
Son George West M 0 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales

All from https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22mar...


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William West marries ????, W-o-S in 1872

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 23:04 (4177 days ago) @ Jefff

Evening Slowhands and Crossy,

Slowhands, are you suggesting that Crossy may have things confused ???.

I ask as, before seeing your replies, I started searching the 1881 Census UK-wide for Mary Ann West born abt 1840/1850s, spouse William. Where-ever I looked I kept coming back to the following possibilities with the first being my strong favourite, thinking maybe it was a transcription error and should read Mary not Sarah. On now seeing your replies I now realise it seems to match your first posted marriage;

Name: Sarah Ann West
Age (Original): 36
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1845
Birthplace: Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: ((Duster Tinworks))
Address: Well Tump
Event Place: East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341609
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2522 / 34
Page Number: 12
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 35 Roughton, Wiltshire, England
Wife Sarah Ann West F 36 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Stepson Tom Bale M 11 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Daughter Caroline West F 7 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England
Daughter Ruth West F 5 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England

When I realised this seemed to match your 1872 Marriage, I tried to find the original marriage as posted by Crossy, as I suspect you have tried too. However according to FreeBMD and GlosBMD the only W-o-S 1872 Marriages are;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BEALE Sarah Ann Westbury S. 6a 462
RUDGE Joseph Westbury S. 6a 462
THOMAS Mary Ann Westbury S 6a 462
WEST William Westbury S. 6a 462

GlosBMD confirms this site's PRs and your post that one of the above marriages is;

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
WEST William - BEALE Sarah Ann - Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1872 2 98
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

SO... to me this suggests Crossy has got their lines crossed, I think you may also think so too Slowhands, please clarify/help, thanks muchly

???

My other less-favoured possibilities from the 1881 Census, but perhaps worthy of further work, were as follows. But am I now searching the wrong couple ??

Name: Mary Ann West
Age (Original): 38
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1843
Birthplace: Blaina, Monmouthshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dress Maker
Address: 21 Cross Street
Event Place: Llanover, Monmouthshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342261
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5237 / 87
Page Number: 41
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 39 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Wife Mary Ann West F 38 Blaina, Monmouthshire, England
Daughter Ruth West F 12 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Daughter Hannah M West F 6 Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, England
Mother In Law Elizabeth Allender F 67 Cwmyoy, Herefordshire, England


Name: Mary West
Age (Original): 31
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1850
Birthplace: Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Wife Of Manufacturer
Address: 65 Oxford Street
Event Place: Swansea (Town), Glamorganshire, Wales
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342291
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 5357 / 131
Page Number: 12
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 45 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales
Wife Mary West F 31 Bristol, Gloucestershire, Wales


Name: Mary West
Age (Original): 35
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1846
Birthplace: Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Address: 7 Arlington St
Event Place: Stockton Upon Tees, Durham, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342178
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4899 / 133
Page Number: 8
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Wm West M 35 Wales
Wife Mary West F 35 Wales
Daughter Mary West F 7 Stockton On Tees
Son J G West M 4 Stockton On Tees
Son Thos West M 3 Stockton On Tees
Lodger J Mc Kenna M 20 Hartlepool, Durham, England


Name: Mary Ann West
Age (Original): 29
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1852
Birthplace: Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Address: 14 Hinton Road
Event Place: Hereford St Martin, Herefordshire, Wales
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341625
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2595 / 59
Page Number: 3
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William West M 27 Kilpeck, Herefordshire, Wales
Wife Mary Ann West F 29 Wormsley, Herefordshire, Wales
Daughter Nelly West F 6 Birmingham, Warwickshire, Wales
Daughter Ada West F 5 Bambury, Oxfordshire, Wales
Son William West M 2 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales
Son George West M 0 Hereford, Herefordshire, Wales

All from https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22mar...


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Wires crossed, assumptions made by the looks of it

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