Grace WHITE / FLANNERY / HARDWICK (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Friday, July 26, 2013, 14:08 (4138 days ago) @ heatherblockley

Hi Heather, welcome to the forum.
Please note that altho we are a friendly helpful bunch and will try our best to help, your enquiry is entering an area we prefer to avoid namely searching possibly living people.
Hopefully you've read these guidelines, from the "please read before posting" post at top of the forum.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=10668

For thread completeness & to maybe help other readers now or in the future, here are the various PRs you mention.

Record_ID: 173205
Entry_Number: 182
Year: 1896
Month: Dec
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: WHITE
Child_Forenames: Grace
Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Mothers_Forenames: Lucy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Joyford South[?] West Dean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: J W Jacob
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 1896 Nov 27
Notes:
Register_Reference: D2598/3/5
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: West Dean Methodist
Soundex: W300

Record_ID: 82012
Entry_Number: 6
Year: 1916
Month: Dec
Day: 23
Grooms_Surname: FLANNERY
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Ripon
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Flannery
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Martin
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: WHITE
Brides_Forenames: Grace
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Christchurch
Brides_Fathers_Surname: White
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Benjamin White
Witness_2: Agnes Gleeson
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C Barnes
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P52 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex_Groom: F456
Soundex_Bride: W300

As you say sadly Thomas was yet another casualty of WW1;
Record_ID: 263421
Entry_Number:
Year: 1919
Month: Sep
Day: 1
Surname: FLANNERY
Forenames: Thomas
Residence:
Age_at_death: 28
Officiating_Minister: C Barnes
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: d at Nottingham Gen Hosp
Notes: NP
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/16
Page_No: 13
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex: F456

This prior thread mentions him; Pte 24205 Thomas FLANNERY, Lancashire Fusiliers.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=18629

From the CWGC website:

FLANNERY, THOMAS
Rank:Private
Service No:24205
Date of Death:28/08/1919
Age:28
Regiment/Service:Lancashire Fusiliers, transf. to (584202) 410th Agricultural Coy, Labour Corps.
Grave Reference
Cemetery FOREST OF DEAN (CHRIST CHURCH) CHURCHYARD
Additional Information:
Son of Thomas Flannery, of Galway; husband of Grace Flannery, of 20, Camden Rd., London.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/4028930/FLANNERY,%20THOMAS

Only a minority of the CWGC entries carry additional notes such as these, they can be very helpful.

One hopes he got to see his children, one of which was;

Record_ID: 332427
Entry_Number: 283
Year: 1918
Month: Aug
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: FLANNERY
Child_Forenames: Edith Grace
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Grace
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Joyford
Occupation: Private Lancashire Fusiliers
Officiating_Minister: C Barnes
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Jul 17 1918
Notes:
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 36
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex: F456

Record_ID: 82157
Entry_Number: 51
Year: 1936
Month: Aug
Day: 1
Grooms_Surname: WILLIAMS
Grooms_Forenames: Wyndham
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Tin Plate Worker
Grooms_Residence: Redbrook Glos
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Williams
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Retired
Brides_Surname: FLANNERY
Brides_Forenames: Edith Grace
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Joyford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Flannery
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Tom
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Deceased
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: D Richards
Witness_2: J Gallagher
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Wyndham Jones
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/9
Page_Number: 26
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex_Groom: W452
Soundex_Bride: F456

(I assume when you mention Elsie having further children you mean Grace).

Searching "recent" births is difficult within this and other sites for the reasons mentioned earlier, the PRs are not made public. I recommend you use the "advanced search" feature for baptisms, at bottom of the PR search page.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=page&id=22

Using this I've just searched, for example, the whole database (many many thousands of PRs), just searching for all Alfreds with father Thomas baptised post 1919, I couldnt see yours. Similarly for all children mothered by Grace White. Further more intensive searching using similar inputs on your part may produce better results.

As well as this site the Glos Archives site may be very usefull and is easily searched, unlike this PR (Church Record) based site it also includes Registry Office records, and sometimes more recent than this FoD site.
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

From this GlosBMD site you can find this marriage;

Marriage Details

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
HARDWICK Harry Lewis WHITE Grace Forest of Dean West Dean Christchurch 1953 5 49
HARDWICK Harry Lewis FLANNERY Grace Forest of Dean West Dean Christchurch 1953 5 49

and then;

Marriage Details

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
HARDWICK William George HARDWICK Grace Forest of Dean West Dean Christchurch 1961 6 26
HARDWICK William George WHITE Grace Forest of Dean West Dean Christchurch 1961 6 26

I guess William & Harry were maybe brothers ?
Searching local newspapers may well find this Marriage & possibly more detail.

I hope this helps start you off and I'll try and post more later (albeit only within this sites guidelines wrt "living relatives".

atb J