Longhope Manor House, 1911 Census (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Monday, July 29, 2013, 01:41 (4138 days ago) @ shepway

Well well, thanks so much for this Mike, you're a real star.

Apologies to all at Ancestry for thinking they'd made an error, although their mixed-up transcription didn't encourage confidence. Apologies to you kind gents for wasting your time. Once again I was looking at the forest but not seeing the trees. These last few days I've seen a few Census's for large institutions & grand homes and just assumed, foolishly, there should have been another page or two. I'll now revisit those Census returns and study them more closely wrt the small print, rest assured I'll learn from this.

I realise now the really BIG clue is that the form was signed by Priscilla, plus of course the form clearly states total number of occupants as three; thanks Mike for so kindly not mentioning this.

Also thanks for finding Ethel for me - while I've been trying in my usual perverse way to find clues by searching Frederick in earlier Census' via the LDS site; this was made harder as the Jones part of his name seems to vary between a middle name or just an initial J, whereas I was thinking it was a double-barrelled surname, as Ethel was referred to locally as Mrs Jones Williams in later years. In this respect it's interesting her brother doesn't use the Jones name on their 1911 Census form, perhaps as the form was already rather full as you've kindly shown, or maybe he just plain forgot, probably thinking about his father... Of particular interest to me are their Army backgrounds hence living in a respectable area near Sandhurst(Military Academy), Aldershot and the fledgling Flying Corps at Farnborough; all of which I know well thro my own career in that industry.

Sadly Ethel's father Arthur (born Dursley Glos) was to pass away within a few months as this Obituary from the British Medical Journal shows:

"THE death is announced of another Crimean veteran,
Deputy Surgeon-General ARTHUR Guy ELKINGTON, who
died at Farnborough Park, Hampshire, on May 31st 1911, in his
79th year. He was appointed assistant surgeon, Scots
Fusilier Guards in 1853, but in 1868 he was transferred to
the Grenadier Guards, and served with that regiment till
his retirement from the service in 1887. During the
Crimean war in 1854-5 he was present at the battles of
Inkerman (where he was wounded) and Balaclava, and at
the siege and fall of Sebastopol. He was mentioned in
dispatches, granted a medal with three clasps, the Turkish
medal; and the 5th Class of the Order of the Medjidie."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2334332/pdf/brmedj07836-0078a.pdf

Perhaps his ill-health explains Ethel's presence at home, what a sad time for her.

(Is it coincidence that my websearches also found a senior consultant Dr Elkington currently working at hospitals close to Farnboro ?).


While searching Frederick I noted he was only a short train ride from their area in 1901, perhaps also linked to the Army.

Name: Frederick J Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Tenbury, Worcestershire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Andover
Sub-District: Andover
Ecclesiastical Parish: Andover St Marys
Civil Parish: Andover
District/Parish/County: Hampshire

Name: Frederick Jones Williams
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Nov 1870
Christening Place: ROCHFORD,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Edward Jones Williams
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Emily Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02240-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 374935
Reference ID:


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Elkington Ethel Louisa L Headington 3a 1619
Williams Frederick Jones Headington 3a 1619


THANKS again Mike & Chris.


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