Coney family, Herefordshire=>Monmouth/Glos border via Wye ? (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, September 02, 2013, 00:13 (4102 days ago) @ Anne.C

Hi Anne, a warm welcome to the forum.

Have you searched this site's huge database of PRs, accessable from the icon at top of the page ?.

I can find William's baptism which ties in with your date, but also gives Thomas' wife's name as Elizabeth:

Record_ID: 370441
Entry_Number:
Year: 1786
Month: Feb
Day: 14
Parents_Surname: CONEY
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG39/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye

Unfortunately I cannot readily see Thomas' marriage etc in this site's database. The database only carries 40 Coney PRs, they are all along the River Wye. This is the traditional border twixt England and Wales, flowing north-south and skirting the western edge of the Forest. This was a major transport hence migration route pre 1800s. The abovementioned 40 Coney PRs are at Dewchurch/Upton Bishop towards Hereford(which is on the Wye), then a little south at Weston & nearby Ross On Wye, then south again at Goodrich/Monmouth, again right on the Wye. So perhaps your ancestors are more Herefordshire than Monmouthshire ?

Using the free "Familysearch" aka LDS website, searching for more British Coneys in the 1700s, it has some more Herefordshire PRs that could perhaps be your ancestors too, hopefully this link to the findings works for you.
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Athomas...

From those findings I WONDER if this COULD maybe be a sibling of William ??

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Thomas Coney
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Jan 1772
Christening Place: BRIDSTOW,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Coney
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elisabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13862-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 992638
Reference ID:

Bridstow is only a mile north of Ross, as the ever-helpful Genuki site shows.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Bridstow/Gaz1868.html
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/nearby?CCC=HEF,GRIDREF=SO580240,DISTANCE=5,PN=Bridstow

Also from the Familysearch results is this baptism which COULD be Thomas "Senior", perhaps ?. Fownhope is a little further north toward Hereford.

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Thomas Coney
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 May 1746
Christening Place: FOWNHOPE WITH FAWLEYE,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Coney
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01655-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1040010
Reference ID:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/Fownhope/Gaz1868.html

Clearly this is by no means proof but I suggest further carefull searching of the FamilySearch site may be worthwhile. I see several CONEY mentions within the 1800s, be warned that although Monmouthshire was often considered in England, there are some Monmouth PRs listed under Wales too. Hopefully this will also link into 1841 Census findings.

eg from FamilySearch, I wonder if this is the son of William b1786 ?

Name: Thomas Coney
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Sep 1808
Christening Place: Monmouth, Monmouth, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Coney
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00855-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 992324
Reference ID:

Revisiting this FoD site's PRs, is this William's marriage, just before ?

Record_ID: 98492
Entry_Number:
Year: 1807
Month: Dec
Day: 22
Grooms_Surname: CONEY
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: ELLIS
Brides_Forenames: Mary Anne
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: James Coney
Witness_2: Elizabeth Coney
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth
Soundex_Groom: C500
Soundex_Bride:

NB Witnesses: ELIZABETH CONEY - William's mother ?
JAMES CONEY, again from this FoD site, looks like Wm's brother ?:

Record_ID: 370275
Entry_Number:
Year: 1783
Month: Aug
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: CONEY
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG39/3
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye
Soundex: C500

Using the excellent Advanced Search facilty,
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=page&id=22
searching Baptisms to Thos & Eliza CONEY gives this likely family group:

Year Parents Surname Child Forenames Fathers Forenames Mothers Forenames Mothers Surname Residence Occupation Parish Chapel
1773 CONEY Ann, Thomas & Elizabeth Ross on Wye
1783 CONEY James, Thomas & Elizabeth Ross on Wye
1786 CONEY William, Thomas & Elizabeth Ross on Wye
1789 CONEY Richard, Thomas & Elizabeth Ross on Wye
1794 CONEY Edward, Thomas & Elizabeth Weston u Penyard Weston under Penyard

AND SO ON....

I'm sure others will help out tomorrow, I'm afraid I must go for now, ttfn Jeff