Joseph Wintle ( m Mary Hook 1807) ? parents. (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, September 30, 2013, 23:33 (4073 days ago) @ Gill

Hi Gill,
I know you've been on the forum for some while so I suspect you've probably searched and found these prior threads re the numerous Joseph Wintles ?.
If not perhaps they will help or at least you may see other Wintle researchers who can help you, may be worth contacting them by direct mail.
For example see
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=39487
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=19584

Re the birth pre marriage, presumably the other children you mention were all born after Joseph ?. If so, the fact that Joseph's apparent Baptism occurs in another Parish some miles from their Marriage does suggest to me they were perhaps trying to "disguise" their ill-timed indiscretion from their neighbours etc, I've seen similar cases in other families I've researched even in much more-recent times where people routinely travelled further from their immediate home village or area.

Hope this helps if only a little.

PS I've just read the PRs and realise he was actually Baptised at Coleford/Newland. I had misread your post and thought he was Baptised at Tibberton, so still about 5 miles from Leigh. Now I realise the Baptism & Marriage took place much farther apart then that seems to lend even more credence to the argument for hiding the truth.
When did they move to Glamorganshire ?

For completeness, from this site's PRs:

Record_ID: 263302
Entry_Number:
Year: 1787
Month: Dec
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: WINTLE
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Tiberton Gloucestershire
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 777
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: W534

Record_ID: 100114
Entry_Number: 51
Year: 1787
Month: Dec
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: WINTLE
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: of the Parish of Tibberton in the County of Glouce
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 5
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: W534

Possible parents ?
Record_ID: 82714
Entry_Number:
Year: 1788
Month: Aug
Day: 28
Grooms_Surname: WINTLE
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: batchelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Lansamleton County of Glamorgan
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HILL
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1: Elizabeth Weaver
Witness_2: Joshua Weaver
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P199 IN 1/4
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: The Leigh
Soundex_Groom: W534
Soundex_Bride: H400

NB So no parents as witnesses ?. Do you know who the Weavers are, or where from ?

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PPS Searching tinternet for "John & Sarah Wintle Tibberton" gave the following public FH website which details this line in considerable detail including their time in Llansamlett, altho of course I cannot vouch for it's accuracy. http://jamesel1.tripod.com/index.html

You may wish to contact the site's owner, see email address on this page
http://jamesel1.tripod.com/id5.html

Also see this from the Ancestry website:
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=17&p=surnames.wintle

Also this online "Wintle-forum group" contains references to the family:
http://www.wintle.on.ca/wintleuk.html