What happened to Elizabeth POYNER of Huntley (General)

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Sunday, December 22, 2013, 23:36 (3942 days ago)

As it’s fairly quiet at the moment I thought I would try and set the hounds on this one:-

It starts off with Eliza POYNER who married Thomas GREEN at Huntley 10/03/1853 (Record 28946 Entry 47). Her age is given as 18 which suggests a birth year of 1835. Her father’s name is given as James PARRY, a mason, which suggests she might have been illegitimate. In fact a James PARRY, a stonemason, is recorded in Census at Blaisdon (a short distance from Huntley) at about the right time. I can track him and his later marriage through Census and the Probate Calendar.

The best candidate for her baptism seems to be:-

Record_ID 89546
Entry_Number 305
Year 1835
Month Nov
Day 1
Parents_Surname POYNER
Child_Forenames William (NB actual name in register = Eliza)
Fathers_Forenames [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname
Residence Huntley
Occupation single woman
Officiating_Minister Henry L Whatley off min.
Event Baptism
Parish/Chapel Huntley

(Although the child’s name is given as William it is actually Eliza and is in the process of correction.)

The question then is what happened to Elizabeth, Eliza’s mother? FamilySearch has this marriage record:-

Name: Charles COLE
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse’s Name: Elizabeth POYNER
Spouse’s Birth Date:
Spouse’s Birthplace:
Spouse’s Age:
Event Date: 14 Oct 1838
Event Place: Huntley, Gloucester, England

However, I have not been able to find the record elsewhere. This site has a record of a Charles COLE of the right age and born in Blaisdon:-
Record_ID: 149803
Entry_Number: 1
Year: 1813
Month: Apr
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: COLE
Child_Forenames: Charles
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Joanna
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Blaysdon
Occupation: Carpenter
Officiating_Minister: the Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P49 1/4
Page_Number: 1
Parish_Chapel: Blaisdon

This seems to be a good candidate for Charles’s marriage, but it’s not to Elizabeth POYNER! Census gives this Charles’s birth year as 1813 and his birth town as Blaisdon.

Year: 1844
Month: Feb
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: COLE
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: of full age
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Smith
Grooms_Residence: Milkwall
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Cole
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Carpenter
Brides_Surname: CARTER
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: of full age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: none stated
Brides_Residence: Milkwall
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Carter
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Major
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of George Carter
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Hawkins
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C W Grove Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 154
Parish_Chapel: Newland

So, were these two Charles COLEs the same person? Did he marry Elizabeth first and then Hannah? Did Elizabeth die soon after their marriage? Did they marry at all? Are there gaps in the records? Have I made a glaring error somewhere? Thanks in advance for any assistance.


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