Waters Family, Sylvan Cottage, Dancing Green (General)

by sophiewilliams , Friday, February 14, 2014, 16:50 (3936 days ago) @ Jefff

Gosh Jefff you are a star and I wish I had given more information to save you a lot of trouble but I just wanted to put out feelers to see if anyone responded first!!

Thanks so much for all you have done and now I'll clear up a bit of the mystery that I do know!

Right here goes.

My grandmother, Kathleen was not registered !!!! This being because Alice had an affair with either David Waters, or somebody else altogether when her husband was in the Asylum. Maybe this is why he was in the Asylum due to his wife's infidelity!! My mum tells me it was never talked about when she was a little girl. We still can't rule out George as being the father because of dates/and things but I'm not convinced.

Anyway, Kathleen was born at home at a place called Hole-in-the-Wall in Herefordshire, I can't even find a christening record for her (if only Herefordshire did such a good website as this one!). In later life she had to find somebody who knew her from birth to verify her identity for a passport - quite sad ....

Alice married David in 1917 but Kathleen did not take the surname of Waters ... Why was this, if she was his daughter? Alice and David lived in Weston Under Penyard and Kathleen went to the school there. David went on to have a sad existence when Alice kicked him out and he went from Ross Poor Union (approx 1925ish) to Ledbury Union, Bromyard Union and eventually Leominster where he died in 1969. My mum didn't even know he was still alive when she was growing up.

Kathleen had the surname Bick as that was Alice's married name. Alice had two daughters already -Ada Elsie Bick (14 yes at Kathleen's birth) and May (9 yrs). Kathleen married a George Barratt and it is on this certificate that there is no name of father written. Apparently I have found out through one of May's daughters that they visited David in The unions.

It would be really good to speak to somebody that knew David, I would love to see a photo of him. Kathleen was so different to her half sisters in her looks.

Sorry this is so long-winded but hopefully it explains everything and I know paints a very bad picture of my GT grandmother!

Thanks once again.