Frederick George Coates

can anyone help me please.... looking for a Frederick George Coates born 1900 I think in Gloucester, died aged 35/36. at age 16 he worked for Great Western Railways.
I don't have any other information. any help would be gratefully received. thank you

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Could this be him?

COATES, Frederic George

Registration district: [?] Tewkesbury

County: Gloucestershire

Year of registration: 1903

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]6A

Page no:[?]483

In 1911 he is living in Yew Tree Cottages, Tewkesbury with parents Henry (c1870), Wine Merchants Porter and Mary and brother William (1900).

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Could this be Henry's marriage?

MarriageFinder™: Henry Edward Coates married Mary Dunn [?]

Name: COATES, Henry Edward

Registration district: [?] Tewkesbury

County: Gloucestershire

Year of registration: 1898

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 6A

Page no: [?] 879
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Name: DUNN, Mary

Registration district: Tewkesbury

County: Gloucestershire

Year of registration: 1898

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912

Volume no: 6A

Page no: 879

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Hello Karen

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Births Sep 1900
Sterry Frederick George Cheltenham 6a 442

On GlosBMD he is shown as Frederick George Coates mmn Sterry AND Frederick George Sterry mmn Sterry. http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/BirthSearch.aspx

Deaths Jun 1936
Coates Frederick G 35 Gloucester 6a 391

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1901

Street HIGH STREET
Parish CHELTENHAM
Town
City
County Gloucestershire
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District ST PAULS
Enumeration District 7
Municipal Ward NORTH
Parliamentary Borough CHELTENHAM
Registration District CHELTENHAM
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Person 1
First Name WILLIAM
Last Name COATES
Birth Year 1838
Age 63
Birth Town SANDHURST
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender Male
Occupation PORK BUTCHER
Condition WIDOWER
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 124
Page 17
Piece Number 2460
Person 2
First Name GERTRUDE
Last Name STERRY
Birth Year 1878
Age 23
Birth Town LONGHOPE
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household DAUGHTER
Gender Female
Occupation
Condition WIDOW
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 124
Page 17
Piece Number 2460
Person 3
First Name FRANCIS
Last Name STERRY
Birth Year 1898
Age 3
Birth Town CHELTENHAM
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household GRAND SON
Gender Male
Occupation
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 124
Page 17
Piece Number 2460
Person 4
First Name FREDERICK
Last Name STERRY
Birth Year 1901
Age 0
Birth Town CHELTENHAM
Birth County GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household GRAND SON
Gender Male
Occupation
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 124
Page 17
Piece Number 2460
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There is on Genesunited - info on this family group i.e. 1901 census and earlier census returns…..

'Gertrude STERRY was his housekeeper and not daughter and her 1st 2 children were his and she later married and had more and was never married to William COATES'

William COATES died J/A/S Qtr 1901 Cheltenham, age 66 - birth date abt 1835)

Gertrude Emily STERRY later married Wallace JONES, North St John the Baptist 1902.

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Which is born out by earlier census returns.

Ancestry UK, Railway Employment Record (in brief - obviously a bit more info on the two pages)

Name: Frederick Geo COATES

Birth Date: 24 June 1900

Residence Date: 5 Jan 1917

Age: 16

Station: Gloucester

Company : Great Western

Description: No. 13 1888-1920 Swindon Division

Occupation: E Cleaner to Fireman

(in previous reply - Frederick STERRY is aged 9 months 1901 census) His birth date on Railway Records is 24 June 1900.

1901 census taken 31 March 1901.

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Following on from the message on Genesreunited - this is the 1911 Census

at Slad, Longhope, Glos (living in 4 rooms)

JONES

Wallace - 28 - - G.W.R. Platelayer - born Taynton, Glos
Gertrude - 32 - married 8 years - 2 children born alive, 2 living - born Longhope, Glos
Francis JONES - step-son - 13 - School born Cheltenham
Frederick JONES - step-son - 10 - School born Cheltenham
Edgar JONES - 6 - School - born Taynton, Glos
Norris JONES - 3 - School - born Blaisdon, Glos

(couple of more children on Fod Records - Longhope)

Ernest Cecil JONES - 22 September 1912
Percy Victor JONES - 22 October 1916

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Gloucestershire Baptism Index

William COATES was christened at Sandhurst St Lawrence - 14 December 1834 - parents : Daniel (farmer) and Julia-Ann

His parents: Daniel COATES of Littleworth married Julia Ann SMITH at Hempsted - 10 June 1822, by banns

1841 Census - Sandhurst

Sector Farm

COATES

Daniell - 60
Julia - 40
John - 15
Joseph - 14
Mary - 12
George - 10
Jane - 8
William - 6
Ann - 1

1851 census - he is an Apprentice Butcher at Sandhurst - age 16

1861 census - a Slaughterman aged 24 - at Ross (ancestry says Sankhurst, Glos)

1871 census, Cheltenham

201 High Street

COATES

William - 33 Mater Butcher, born Sandhurst
Eliza - 31 - born Newent
Alice - 5 - born Cheltenham
Anne - 1 - born Cheltenham

1881 Census, Cheltenham
201 High Street

COATES

William - 44 - Butcher, born Glo'tershire
Eliza - 43 born ditto
Annie - 12 - Cheltenham
Emily - 10
William - 7
Jane - 4
John - 2 (Glosbdm - mother's maiden name: PERKINS)

1891 Census, Cheltenham

201 High Street

Williams COATES - M - 50 - Butcher, born Sandhurst *says M for married, but no sign of Eliza at home
Annie - 21 - born Cheltenham
William - 17 - born Cheltenham

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On the 1891 Census, Eliza COATES - age 48 - Confectioner, born Glos Newent, could have had fallen out with William as she appears to be living at 15 Horse Fair - Gloucester St James (Wid) - with two of her children Mary J 14 (assume Jane 1881 census) - born Cheltenham and John aged 12/13 born Cheltenham

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William COATES married Eliza PERKINS, Shurdington, St Paul, Cheltenham 1864

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Looking at Public Members Tree - this is the 1851 census Newent

Skeols

William GRIFFIN - 25 Ag. Lab. born Glos. Oxenhall
Mehetable - 23 - ditto
William R - 8 months
Eliza PERKINS, 16 sister, Nursemaid, born Oxenhall

(parents - Thomas PERKINS - 1806-1849 and Elizabeth JONES - 1795-1849)

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Mary Jane COATES married a GLIDDON and her Probate is on Ancestry - (wife of Arthur,boot repairer) died 18 January 1943 in Manchester.

and full circle - 1911 census, Broughton, Lancs

GLIDDON

Arthur - 34, Bootmaker, born Glos. Bristol
Mary Jane - 34 - born Cheltenham
Alice Elsie COATES GLIDDON - 7 born Lancs, Salford
Violet Ethel COATES GLIDDON - 4 - born Lancs, Salford

Eliza COATES died in Cheltenham 1909 - age 74

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The COATES tree is well documented on Public Members Tree on Ancestry - and goes back to Marmaduke COATES - 1630 - Hambridge, Somerset - then deaths in Brockworth, Glos in 1764

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thank you for your reply. Could you clarify that William is Grandfather to Frederick George Coates born 1900? or his he actually his father if he had two children with his housekeeper I am a little confused as on the GlosBMD it says his mothers maiden name was Sterry!!! sorry to be a pain

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If you look at Chris' previous reply and her link to Gloucestershire bdm this question has been answered.

Francis Henry COATES - 1897 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn Newnham - which gives the mother's maiden name as STERRY

Frederick G COATES - 1900 - Cheltenham
Child surname: COATES
Child Forename: Frederick G
Father's Surname: (BLANK)
Mother's Surname: STERRY
Mother's former name: (BLANK)

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William COATES died in 1901 (in previous reply) - so two children by Gertrude, Francis 1897 and Frederick 1900

For Records

Baptism at Longhope - 28 May 1897

Francis Henry STERRY

father: William

mother: Gertrude

residence: May Hill, Longhope

occupation: Butcher

memoranda: born 20 December 1897

and death on Ancestry - Francis Henry COATES - Forest of Dean 1980 age 83 (with the same birth date - 20 December 1897)

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Thanks Marilyn - I thought this looked familiar. I added a couple of posts to that GR thread!

Chris

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Thank you all for your help. x

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For the record, Gertrude Emily Sterry was baptised at Longhope in 1878:
1878 Nov 10 Gertrude Emily of George Sterry, Labourer, of Longhope & Patience

If anyone is interested in pursuing the STERRY connection, Gertrude Sterry is on the so-called Longhope, Gloucestershire Sterry line:
http://sterryworldwide.com/webtrees/index.php?ctype=gedcom&ged=longhope.ged

Thanks for all the information on Gertrude. Much of it I didn't have.

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