Elizabeth Hillman born 1855 and lived at Ruardean (General)
by lamplighter10, Friday, April 04, 2014, 02:02 (3881 days ago)
I cannot find any reference to the above after the census of 1871 when she was 15. Her father William moved to Lancashire but she is not shown on the 1881 census. There is an Elizabeth Hillman who married a Richard Tattersall in Lancashire with a father William Hillman and fits the same birth year but the register shows she was born in Liverpool! Our Elizabeth was born in Gloucestershire. Any help would be appreciated, trying to tie up the loose ends of the family research. Thank you
Elizabeth HILLMAN/WATKINS?
by MPGriffiths , Friday, April 04, 2014, 08:59 (3881 days ago) @ lamplighter10
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Elizabeth HILLMAN married William WATKINS, Forest of Dean, Monmouth Register Office 1878
On the 1871 Census, Elizabeth is living with William, her father, Mary Ann and siblings in Lower Lydbrook
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the 1881 census for Lower Lydbrook shows
William WATKINS, age 26 - Tin Rowler, born Glos Ruardean
Elizabeth WATKINS, age 28 - born ditto (knocks a few years off her age!)
Oliver WATKINS - 1
1891 Census Lydbrook
Ancestry has WATTAM
WATKINS/WATTAM
William - 36
Elizabeth - 38
Oliver G - 11
Lois - 8
Edwin J - 5
Charlotte - 3
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1901 Census Lydbrook
WATKINS
William - 45
Elizabeth - 48
Louisa - 18
James - 15
Charlotte - 13
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Elizabeth corrects her age by the 1911 census
Elizabeth WATKINS, 12 Lower Lydbrook
age 55, Widow, 4 children born alive, 4 living, born Lydbrook
Edwin James - 25 - Tin Worker (roller)
Lois - 26
Charles - 23
William Jas WATKINS, grandson age 1
Elizabeth Hillman born 1855 and lived at Ruardean
by lamplighter10, Friday, April 04, 2014, 10:08 (3880 days ago) @ lamplighter10
Thank you - a possible, will have to follow up on the marriage certificate.
HILLMAN/CULLY/SIMMONDS/WATKINS
by MPGriffiths , Friday, April 04, 2014, 15:04 (3880 days ago) @ lamplighter10
Have just checked Public Members Trees on Ancestry - and these confirm
Elizabeth HILLMAN (who married William WATKINS) was the daughter of William HILLMAN - 1826/1908 and Elizabeth SIMMONDS - 1823/1861**
William WATKINS parents were: Giles WATKINS - 1829/1907 and Susannah CULLY - 1831/1906.
There are also previous threads on this forum re the above families
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Also on Rootsweb Gloucester - Archives - 14 December 1998
Cinderford Mercury - Friday 1 April 1881
Littledean Police Court
Poor Rate Defaulters
Emmanuell HILLMAN and Giles WATKINS, were summoned by the Overseers of Ruardean, for arrears of rate, 8/- each, and orders were made against the parties.
Death Notice - Cinderford Mercury - 1 April 1881
March 24, at Lydbrook, Mary Ann, widow of William WATKINS, aged 71 years
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Burial at English Bicknor - 16 May 1861
Elizabeth HILLMAN aged 38
residence: Lydbrook
1861 Census, Lydbrook Hill
HILLMAN
William 35 - Tin Rouler, born East Dean
Elizabeth - 38 - born English Bicknor
Elizabeth - 9 - born East Dean
Sarah A - 6
John - 2
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1871 Census - Lower Lydbrook
HILLMAN
William - 45
Mary Ann - 29 - born Hangarnan, Hereford (1881 census, born Langgarron, Hereford)
Elizabeth - 15
John - 12
Mary - 4 (looking at freebdm - Mary 1867, Monmouth, Coleford, mother's maiden name: WATKINS)
Charlott - 8
John WATKINS, father-in-law - blacksmith born Monmouth
Susanna WATKINS - 39 - born English Bicknor.
The family appear to be Methodists and there is a baptism at West Dean Methodist - 19 April 1863 of Emily, daughter of William (Tin Plate Roller) and Maryann - residence, Lydbrook.
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Marriage at Whitchurch, 1862
William HILLMAN, Widower, residence, Whitchurch
married, Mary Ann WATKINS, Spinster, residence, Whitchurch
by Banns
Date of Banns: 1862 Feb 16, 23, Mar 2
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1861 Census, Llangarran, Herefordshire
WATKINS
Michael - 53 - born Langarran
Hannah - 52, born English Bicknor
Mary A - 19 - born Langarran
Emma - 16
Eliza - 10
Ralph K - 7
Sarah BILLS, Visitor - 40
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Fod Records
Marriage at Whitchurch - 1834
Michael WATKINS and Hannah WATKINS
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HILLMAN/CULLY/SIMMONDS/WATKINS
by lamplighter10, Friday, April 04, 2014, 23:06 (3880 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Thank you again, some of the information I have but there are some interesting facts that you have turned up.