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This is to amend the details of the above named Marine who is described as KIA when in fact he died in Hospital viz:

Great Britain, Royal Naval Division Casualties of The Great War, 1914-1924
about Daniel William Davies
Name: Daniel William Davies
Service Branch: Royal Marine Light Infantry
Unit: 2nd Royal Marine Bn.
Rank: Private
Death Date: 3 Feb 1916
Cause of Death: Died at 12.10pm in RN Hospital Haslar from Typhoid Fever & Broncho-Pneumonia
Burial: English Bicknor (St. Mary) Churchyard (Gloucester 200)
Service History: Draft for MEF 5/10/15, joined 2nd RM Bn. 22/10/15-28/10/15 Abrasion Perineum, Invalided to UK 3/1/16, Paratyphoid ; Died UK 3/2/16
Service number: PLY/852/S
Notes: b.Tredegar, Mon. 21/10/1894 ; Son of Hannah Davies, of Hillersland, Coleford, Gloucestershire. Husband of Lily May Davies, of Pear Tree Cottage, Hillersland, Nr. Coleford, Gloucester, later of: Symonds Yat, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, later of: Mordiford, Herefordshire.

Hope this will help to clear up any misunderstanding.

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Thanks Chris, very interesting & helpful information about another brave young man.
Please may I ask two questions,
1. Does his Medal Index Card stated "K.I.A" or similar. I'm asking from a general viewpoint wrt my better understanding of these Records.
2. Do you have any clues as to where Daniel joinedup ?. I ask as one of my ancestors from Longhope joined the RND, so not quite a Marine but a trench Seaman anyhow. It seemed odd to me that this should happen, no clear geographical etc Navy links there, why not join the more obvious Army Regiment ?. Subsequently I've found others in that area who had already been in, or joined, the Navy; presumably those Services also recruited locally maybe Gloucester Docks etc.
Thanks, Jeff

RIP Daniel W Davies.

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Thanks. Reply sent via webmaster. Hope this will answer some, if not all, of your queries.

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Incidentally, his CWGC Grave Stone is on the North Side of the church in English Bicknor.

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Thanks very much Chris, I look forward to receiving that in due course, Jeff.

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Royal Navy and Royal Naval Divison and Royal Marine WW1 medal awards can be searched for on Ancestry under "U.K., Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949".
The entry for Daniel W. Davies gives his service number PLY/852/S, lists the three medals he was entitled to, and in the 'how issued or disposed of' column is written "WW" (possibly means 'with widow'?) and in the 'remarks' column is written "I.C. 239/1916" (apparently some reference to his burial?).
Entries are also available for him on Ancestry in the "U.K., Royal Navy and Royal Marine Graves Roll, 1914-1919" and "Great Britain, Royal Naval Division Casualties of the Great War, 1914-1924" which lists the information given in post 1.
To locate these record categories highlight "Search" on the top tool bar, click on "Military" on the drop down menu, then click on the green "View all in Card Catalogue" button on the right of the next page for a list of the categories, scroll down to find the above and others. Best just search for U.K. and Ireland Records only to start with or you will get a load of U.S. record categories to scroll through.

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Royal Naval Division service records 1914 - 1919 are available to search for and download online from National Archives for a fee of £3.36 at
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-division.htm
and Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve service records 1903 - 1922 at
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/royal-naval-volunteer-reserve-service-record...

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Good afternoon Harry,
thanks so much for your helpfull posts. Yes I was aware of those research routes, the TNA site being particularly usefull in lieu of Ancestry etc. I was planning to visit my local library tomorrow, just reopened after a frustratingly-long closure for refurbishment, there I was intending to further investigate several WW1 records off Ancestry and now out of curiosity Daniel will be added to my list. Following your advice on the recent Frank Dent thread I'll be focussing on the "Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919" resource, a new one to me, thanks again.
As you've probably realised my first query wrt the erroneous "K.I.A." entry - like my recent post on the Dent thread - is because of Chris' initial post re the apparent ambiguity of the reporting of Daniel's death.
As annoying as it can be to not have full Ancestry etc access at home all the time, in some ways it's good having to get out of the house and use the library for a change. They also have FindMyPast access which, as you'll no doubt know, occasionally carry extra information compared to Ancestry particularly it seems wrt pre WW1. Last summer, just before my library closed, I was also able to download some of FMP's newly-acquired RND Service Records which I don't think were on Ancestry. As this friendly forum often shows it's always worthwhile trying different sources or angles of information.
Thanks again, Jeff

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First, thanks Chris for the extra records data you've sent me, very interesting & helpful.

Second, sorry for once again not spotting the wood for the trees - I really should have remembered that the Medal Index Cards that I referred to earlier will not include Daniel for the simple reason these are British ARMY Records only. This dawned on me as I was wondering why the RND Marines Infantry carry Army ranks such as Private Davies, whereas the RND Infantry that I've researched carry Naval ranks, so a "Private" would equate to AB, Able Seaman. I think this apparent oddity is because the very first "Marines" were actually Army Soldiers seconded onto Navy warships long before the Royal Marines were formally created within the Navy ?
Anyhow, in case you haven't seen them Chris these RND related websites are excellent;
http://www.jackclegg.com/
http://www.navy-net.co.uk/history/41712-royal-naval-division-ww1.html

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Also worth reading the Wikipaedia entry. I knew the rough outline of RM history, but had a look to see what it said.

Marines go back to 1664, and were under the army at some periods and under the Royal Navy at others. Under the Admiralty from 1755. Renamed Royal Marines in 1802. Renamed RMLI 1855 and Corps of Royal Marines in 1923.

One thing I didn't know, Lawrence Washington, half brother of George was an officer in the 43rd Foot (army numbering) which was a marine regiment in the 1741-1748 war. George's ambition was to be an officer in the British army. He was refused despite being a trusted unofficial aide to General Braddock, senior British general in North America at the start of the French Indian wars from 1754, soon to become part of the Seven Years War 1756-1763.

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Readers might be interested in the belt of the Corps of Royal Marines. The belt has navy blue, yellow, red and green stripes which, if memory serves right, signify, in order, their links with The Royal Navy, The Infantry, The Artillery and The Light Infantry. This is perhaps why we have The RMA and RMLI etc
Chris

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Thanks, got them both and very interesting they are too!
Good hunting

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Re Daniel William Davies
I'm sorry but I've come in on your reply but couldn't find the earlier post . AThis a gentleman is my maternal great grandfather who I have been looking for information about . What is your connection do you know over others I might link to.
I am the daughter of Gillian Evelyn's daughter
Dianne

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DL pickering

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Hello
I am not related to your GGF.

In 1999, I began a project to collate the memorials etc of all in the Coleford district whose names were listed on the many memorials in local churches, clubs etc; as a result of which I was able to convince the Coleford Town Council to construct one comprehensive memorial in the town centre so that their names would not be forgotten as churches, clubs and the like close down and their memorials disappear. (I know of a number of memorials which have been found in piles of scrap metals and did not wish this to happen to our local service personnel).

I stumbled, by accident, upon DWD's grave which is on the North side of English Bicknor church; (I do not think his name is listed anywhere else except perhaps on the Royal Naval memorials in Plymouth or Portsmouth). At that time the grave was covered with brambles, weeds and tree branches and was lost to view unless someone was searching closely. I uncovered the stone, recorded the details and placed his name in Coleford.

It may be possible to download some of his service details from Find My Past.

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Daniel William Davies is listed on the War Memorial at Goodrich, his mother's family lived at Colwall, Huntsham/English Bicknor and before that at Bridstow.

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Thank you for your reply that's very helpful
Dianne

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DL pickering

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Sorry for the late reply but thank you very much for the info ,very interesting I will make sure I pass this onto my mother .
Thanks again
Dianne

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DL pickering

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Thanks also for uncovering and tidying Daniels grave

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DL pickering

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