REDMAN/JENKINS (General)

by janethowell, Tuesday, June 24, 2014, 20:59 (3806 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Hi

There's nothing like a name change to make you wonder what is happening especially when you bear in min that what was taboo in times gone by are almost commonplace and barely worthy of note today.

I am not on Ancestry so am not familiar with any records or trees they have.

The reason I am interested in Thomas Neary of London - a place that does not feature in my family tree at all except for him - is that on the 1881 census, 3 of Sarah and Shadrach Jenkins children are found as lodges with either him and wife Hannah or their son Walter in London. A son of Sarah and Shadrach Jenkins is also named Evan Neary Jenkins. Evan is a family name but Neary is not. Evan Neary Jenkins appears as Evan Harry at his baptism in Bream.

1881 census shows the family split between Bream (Sarah Jenkins and daughter Sarah Hannah), Staffordshire (Shadrach and son John), sons Arthur, Evan Neary and William in London. Shadrach and son John migrated to Staffordshire looking for work in 1878. The 1891 census sees them all together again in Staffordshire.

In a recent thread "intrigue at the high court" a notice of a court action connected the Neary, Jenkins and Davis families, united together against James Morse.

Morse v Neary
Reference: C 16/90/M127
Cause number: 1862 M127
Documents: Bill, interrogatories
Plaintiffs: James Morse.
Defendants: Thomas Neary, Mary Davies, William Davies, Shadrach Jenkins and Sarah Jenkins his wife.
Provincial solicitor employed in Gloucestershire.
Date: 1862
Held by: The National Archives, Kew

The people involved are, I believe...

1861 census
Mary Davis age 73, widow of William Davis, at Bream with Caroline Davis age 18 - grand-daughter, and base daughter of Sarah Davis (Shadrach's wife)

1861 census
William Davies, age 37, wife Ellen and family, at Bream Woodside
Son of Mary (and William Davis deceased), brother to Sarah Jenkins nee Davis

Thomas Neary born 16 Jan 1817 C02151 –
baptised 9 Feb 1817 St Giles Cripplegate
Parents Walter Neary and Margaret – confirmed by 1851 census

Thomas married Hannah Davis at All Souls St Marylebone
20 Jan 1850 – M05391-1 and certificate Ref 1/157/19 Marylebone

1851 census gives Hannah Neary nee Davis place of birth as Gloucestershire, but place name heavily overwritten so can't read it on image of original

I believe Hannah to be sister to Sarah Jenkins (nee Davis) and William Davies
All children of William (deceased) and Mary Davis of Beam

Baptism - Hannah DAVIS
ID: 192151/entry 175
26 Oct 1817
Parents William x Mary davis
Residence: Bream
Occupation: Collier
Minister: George Ridout
Reg. Ref.: P57 IN 1/2 page 22
Parish/Chapel: Bream

There is a James Morse age 61 with son James Morse age 28 at Bream on 1861 census

How is James Morse connected with my gg- and ggg-grandparents?
How is James Morse connected with Thomas Neary of London?
What could possibly have happened to cause such legal action?

The Hannah Davis who married Thomas Neary could be one of several possibles I have full documentation of - but sisterhood to Sarah is the only way to explain the Neary part of Evan Neary Jenkins name and why Sarah should let 3 sons go to London to stay with the Neary's.

I am inviting better or more plausible connections - and an answer to the question why a Hannah Davis of any pedigree born FoD should find herself aged 30 in London marrying Thomas Neary.

All this is part of trying to smash 2 brick walls at once
- Where were Shadrach and Sarah Jenkins and family at the time of the 1861 census? (Court case is dated 1862)

and

- Where was Sarah Hannah Redman nee Jenkins (daughter of Shadrach and Sarah) in 1901 census? Could she be in London IF her aunt is Hannah Neary? If this is so, she could have changed her name! I have tried many possibles and got nowhere...

Janet