Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield (General)
I'm searching for any information on Andrew Butcher (1773-1838)prior to his marriage.
He Married May Millard at Corse in 1800 (The only entry in FOD records)
Died 1838 and buried at Eldersfield.
His wedding details list him as of the parish of Eldersfield but I can find no trace of him in the Eldersfield registers prior to his marriage. His descendants lived in the Corse, Hartpury, Ashleworth, Eldersfield area which is not only right on the border of the FOD area but also straddles the Gloucestershire/Worcestershire border as well.
His family surname from 1840's onward became BOUCHER which is the French version of Butcher so unsure if he was a Boucher who became Butcher thanks to a French speaking parson or visa versa.
Any help Much appreciated
Ted Boucher
Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield
by MPGriffiths 
, Wednesday, July 30, 2014, 16:52 (3763 days ago) @ Percyqted
? When William BROADSTOCK married Mary CHANDLER by Licence at Corse - 24 February 1801 - witnesses: Ann ? PLAYNE & Sarah BUTCHER.
Mary BROUDSTOCK is on the 1851 census born Corse - and her baptism again states: No parish records etc. etc. Bishops Transcripts have been used.
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There would appear to be only two children of Andrew and Mary BUTCHER - is this correct, as it seems quite a gap.
i.e. Wm - 30 January 1803 at Eldersfield and Mary - 25 December 1810 at Corse.
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Gloucestershire Archives
Finding Ref: GDR/B4/777
Title: Lydia YOUNG (of Hasfield) v Andrew BUTCHER: defamation
Date: 1807
Number of Docs: 1 document
Held at: Gloucestershire Archives
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? Hasfield seems to be about 2/3 miles from Corse
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Fod Records
Burial at Corse - 16 May 1832
Lydia YOUNG age 68
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Lydia's Inventory is on Ancestry: she is a Spinster - will read through, but appears to be very comfortably off - and has a cottage, many, many possessions, including 44 pewter dishes + farming stock etc.
Her brother, Richard YOUNG of Corse, Pig Cutter - seems to have gone after her death and sworn he is her brother.
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Richard YOUNG christened at Corse: 22 July 1770 - paents Richard & Hannah
Notes: As no parish registers are available for this time, Bishop Transcripts have been used.
? Andrew BUTCHER's lack of baptism records
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Gloucestershire Catalogue also have:
Ann VAUGHAN v Jane BURCHER alias BUTCHER, defamation 1711
Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield
Thank you for all these leads it gives me plenty to dig into next time I'm in the records office.
This all revolves around a 5 mile semi circle with Ashleworth as the centre point and of course west of the river.
The Broadstocks were active in Hartpury, and Corse and they all seemed to marry brides called Sarah
First was James who married Sarah Gibbs for Redmarly in 1801 at Hartpury and had 9 children baptised at Hartpury
Then in 1828 William married Sarah Tompkins in Gloucester but was the blacksmith at Corse and had 6 children baptised.
As said Hartpury,Corse, Ashleworth & Hasfield are all neighbouring villages or hamlets in Gloucestershire as is Eldersfield but that's over the border in Worcestershire. Where one village ended and the next started was often fairly vague.
I have also only discovered two children for Andrew Butcher as you said; William & Mary.
Of Mary I can find no trace other than her baptism at Corse (even though the family seems to have been based in Eldersfield)
William Butcher married Mary Sheppard at Hartpury in 1829 and had 3 offspring
Walter Henry Boucher 1833=1893
William Joseph Boucher 1836 -1898
Ellen Augusta Boucher 1840 - 1905 married name Dobbins.
It was at this time the surname was being spelt in various ways, Butcher, Boucher, Boutcher
The Lydia Young - Andrew Butcher case will make some interesting reading; at the time she would have been 43; he 34. If the cased was found against Andrew and he served time it may explain the wide gap between his children.
Once again many thanks
Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield
by MPGriffiths , Friday, August 01, 2014, 17:43 (3761 days ago) @ Percyqted
When Andrew BUTCHER married Mary MILLARD at Corse - 16 October 1800 - the two witnesses i.e. Giles MILLARD and Sarah LANE.
? is Sarah LANE this lady
John LANE - widower* - Parish of Hartpury *his first wife's death i.e. Betty is on the Fod records
married
Sarah EDWARDS of the same (Hartpury)
by Licence - 23 December 1768
witnesses: John HOULDER and the mark of Mary THAKE
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This John HOULDER witnesses another couple of marriages and do wonder if this surname could possibly be BOUCHER????
and when Thomas BROWN married Sarah LANE by Licence at Hartpury - 6 May 1765
witnesses: John and Anne BUTTLER - ? could this possibly be BUTCHER
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Looking at the Licence on Fod records - Thomas BROWN was aged 26 and Sarah LANE aged 36 and a Widow.
Is there a LANE/BUTCHER/BOUCHER/BUTTLER etc connection
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? John BUTCHER is a witness at Ashelworth - 5 Jan 1778 when Thomas BUBB married Anne PEAR
Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield
What I am fairly certain off is:
Giles Millard is either Mary's Father (died 1802) or her brother (1770-1841)
Mary's Mother was Jane Lane (1748-1818). While searching for Sarah Lane, if I remember, there was one who was sister to Jane and as far as I could find unmarried in 1802.
There was one Sarah baptised in Hartpury in 1756, another in Corse in 1779
Jane lane was baptised in Ashleworth 1748 Parents William and Mary (what else)
There is a Sarah Lane Baptised in Hartpury 1756 Parents William and Mary
The Lane family is one of the long established and widely distributed families of the area, in fact they are still there now.
I stay fairly sceptical about misspellings Butcher/Boucher is English and French versions of the same meanings, I have also found Boutcher which I've linked and Bouchier which I have not.
When Andrew Butcher's son William married Mary Sheppard at Hartpury in 1838 he is named as William Coucher living at Staunton (at that time in Worcestershire) -*FOD records
This is a completely agricultural community and this is the time of the Enclosures and all the disruption that caused.
Long time local families married to various Bouchers/Butchers include Lane, Sheppard, Banks, Price & Dobbins
A John Lane 30 Married Sarah Powell at Upleadon in 1754 Sarah's age is given as 30
A John Lane was buried at Ashleworth in 1763
Allowing for a little licence when a lady came to declare her age (6 years or so) This would leave Widow Sarah Lane available to marry Thomas Brown in 1765.
Widower John Lane did not marry his Sarah (Edwards) until 1768
Many Thanks for your continued interest
Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield
by grahamdavison , Friday, August 01, 2014, 23:52 (3761 days ago) @ Percyqted
The following website contains transcripts of 24 parish registers from the area you are interested in: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wrag44/ 12 of these registers are included in the FoD database but the others might be worth searching.
Andrew Butcher (1773 -1838) Eldersfield
by MPGriffiths , Saturday, August 02, 2014, 10:08 (3760 days ago) @ Percyqted
? do you belong to Ancestry
UK Poll Book & Electoral Register
Painswick
MILLARD, Giles, - Hartbury meff and Gardens : Tenure: John Mavey and another
UK Land Tax Redemption - 1798
Proprietor: R Berkeley Esq
Tenant: Giles MILLARD Hiscopes??
Res: Hartpury
£6 10s 6d
+ 1798
There are some of Josh BUTCHER, Haresfield, Wilstone Hundred
Proprietor: Lord Sherbourne: Josh BUTCHER*, sums Affeffed : £1. 6s
also records for Josh at Standish
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Gloucestershire Archives - appear to have record i.e. Lord Sherbourne and Joseph Butcher
1710-1782
D678/1 T2/3/80-92
also???
http://www.stroud.gov.uk/info/Listed_Buildings/standish.pdf
Joseph BUTCHER appears to be buried there.