Strides (General)
by Trix 
, Derbyshire, Wednesday, August 06, 2014, 19:08 (3756 days ago)
My gt. grandfather was born in Longhope and the place of birth given as Strides. Can anyone throw any light on this please?
Strides
by jospp , Thursday, August 07, 2014, 20:25 (3755 days ago) @ Trix
Have you got any more info? What was his name and date of birth for instance? Parents?
Strides
by Trix , Derbyshire, Friday, August 08, 2014, 01:14 (3755 days ago) @ jospp
His name was Jesse Cockayne born 1859. His parents were Edward Cockayne and Ann nee Bowkett.
COCKAYNE
by MPGriffiths , Friday, August 08, 2014, 07:58 (3754 days ago) @ Trix
1861 Census, Blaison, District 13b
'The whole of the Parish of Blaisdon. Bounded on the
South Side : by (S ?) HARTS Farm
West by the Velt House (Velt House is on page 7)
East by James JONES (last house on Page 13 of 13 just after, Stanley and Brick House Farm)
North side by (J ?) HARTS
(not quite sure of the initials of the HART's mentioned above - a few HART's in Blaisdon, - page 12 of 13, New House Farm, Thomas HART, Farmer)
Enumerator: John WILCE
Page 1 : is Blaisdon Rectory
Page 8: The Mount, Rough Lease Cottage, then about another 5 cottages before….. on Page 9
Page 9 of 13
Cottage
COCKAYNE
Edward - 28 - Timber Sawyer - born Stafford, Rugeley
Ann - 26 - born Longhope
Edward - 7 - born Blaisdon
Harry - 4 - born Staffordshire, Cannnock **
Jesse - 2 - son - born Blaisdon
1871 Census for Blaisdon
Enumerator: Edwin Bendall
(who only put 3 place name down on 12 pages
Page 2: Bottom of the village
3: Red Hart Inn
4: Rectory
The Whole of the Parish of Blaisdon
Page 1: Bounded on the South side by Crawshay's Farm, West by Velt House farm East side by James Davis, brick House Farm, South side by Hameet? Hant? Pimlee? This Parish has locally siguated within its boundary a detached part of the Parish of Newland (which is in the superintedent Registers District of Monmouth, which contains one house.
(this is a bit rushed, will re-check later, parts of the writing is faint)
Edwin CRAWSHAY J.P. Blaison Hall 1871 from FoD info
*** (Cannock - this is where this reply is being typed from!!)
*** Staffordshirebmd
http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk
Birth: COCKAYNE Henry
Sub-District: Cannock, Penkridge Rural District
Register at: Newcastle Under Lyme
Mother's maiden name: BOUKETT
Reference: CAN/09/008
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Freereg
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Baptism at St Luke Cannock - 8 October 1856
Henry, parents: Edward (Sawyer) and Ann COCKAYNE : abode: CANNOCK
COCKAYNE
by Trix , Derbyshire, Friday, August 08, 2014, 22:27 (3754 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Hello there,
Thanks for that. I have traced the family back to Staffs and then onto Derbys. It was just that on Jesse's birth certificate it stated Strides and I was curious as to the locality within Longhope.
Strides
by Mike Pinchin , Bedford, England, Friday, August 08, 2014, 08:42 (3754 days ago) @ Trix
As a long shot, is there any possibility that the place could be read as Sutridge? This place is (or was?) about a mile north-west of Blaisdon towards Longhope. I imagine it was in Longhope Parish.
Strides
by jospp , Friday, August 08, 2014, 13:52 (3754 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin
Looking at the 1861 census they lived in the area round about Velthouse Lane ('Felt House')and Nottwood Hill ( Notwood/Nottswood). Really on the edge of Longhope and Blaisdon. The cottages didn't have names so 'Strides' is unlikely, maybe a transcription error or the Forest accent rearing it's head again. Sutridge as mentioned before is a possibility. It's just a very small patch of the right area. There is a Sutridge Farm and a Sutridge House on Velthouse Lane, no doubt other cottages too roundabout. Several footpaths run through the area, it's quite pretty especially in the spring.
And there is 'The Steps' nearby, a bit of thinking out of the box!!!
Strides
by Trix , Derbyshire, Friday, August 08, 2014, 22:29 (3754 days ago) @ jospp
Hello Mike,
Thank you for that info. It sounds very much as you have hit the nail on the head. I shall investigate it further. Local terminology can be confusing. On my father's birth certificate the place of birth given had been changed 20 years before but the locals still used the old place name.
Strides
by Mike Pinchin , Bedford, England, Sunday, August 10, 2014, 23:30 (3752 days ago) @ Trix
I wonder if we shouldn’t be looking a little further north than Sutridge. There is an image of Jesse’s birth certificate on Ancestry which, to me, reads ”Slads Longhope” as the birthplace. The progression of the 1861 Census seems to be from Blaisdon Rectory through the village and then back to the Red Hart Inn and the School. After that it goes out to Velt House, and then two cottages before arriving at The Mount. This latter is in the Nottswood Hill area, just south of Little London (some maps show two places named as such within a short distance of each other).
http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453124
Next is another cottage, followed by Rough Lease which is marked on modern maps as being just where the well next to the Ley Brook (just under the name of Little London) is marked on the map above. Six cottages on from that is the Cockayne’s residence. Just the other side of Little London is an area called The Slade on old maps and The Slad on modern ones although it’s not absolutely clear where its boundaries might have been. After that there are sixteen more cottages before we are back with named places in Blaisdon Parish (Pimbury, White Hall, New House Farm, Stanley Farm, Brickhouse Farm). The area seems to be just where the parishes of Longhope, Blaisdon and Huntley meet.
Strides/Slads
by MPGriffiths , Monday, August 11, 2014, 08:50 (3751 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin
Had a look at 'chellist' family tree on Ancestry with the copy birth certificate of Jefse COCKAYNE - father Edward, Journeyman Sawyer, and agree it does say quite clearly, Slads, Longhope
Strides/Slads
by Trix , Derbyshire, Monday, August 11, 2014, 19:36 (3751 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
Hello Mike,
You're right. I am a bit dopey at the moment. School holidays and watching grandchildren!!
The birth certificate is the one I sent for years ago. I am looking at it now. I should have looked before. Where Strides comes from I don't know.
However, that is another matter.You mention quite clearly directions the location. So if I followed your directions on a modern map would I still be able to find the area?
Strides/Slads
by Mike Pinchin , Bedford, England, Monday, August 11, 2014, 20:34 (3751 days ago) @ Trix
Hi there,
If you search Little London, Gloucestershire, on Streetmap the Level 1 zoom will allow you to see Rough Lease. My best guess is that the COCKAYNE family lived in a cottage around the Chapel Lane area (also marked on Level 1 zoom). Of course, since the cottages were not generally named in the 1861 Census, it is impossible to say which one but there are plenty marked on the 1884 map and it now seems likely it was one of these. The extent of The Slad (or Slade) in 1861 I have no means of knowing but it could have extended more south than Streetmap would imply.
Strides/Slads
by Trix , Derbyshire, Monday, August 11, 2014, 23:17 (3751 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin
Hello Mike,
thank you so much for that. I generally like to visit places where my ancestors came from. A few years back I had the opportunity to stay in Longhope but was too busy sourcing evidence at the Record Office so didn't have much time to check out where he was born. They didn't stay there long but moved on to the Cinderford area.
Thank you again.
Tricia.