HAMPTON HOUSE, Minsterworth 1950's (General)

by goudgess, Friday, December 19, 2014, 20:44 (3627 days ago)

Does anybody know anything about this institution run by the Glos County Council in the 50's? I understand it is now called Hygrove House.

HAMPTON HOUSE, Minsterworth 1950's

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Friday, December 19, 2014, 23:23 (3627 days ago) @ goudgess

There are quite a few mentions of this place in the BNA around 1948-50. They are mainly concerned with the cost of its adaptation as an old peoples’ home (£20,000-£25,000) and, thereafter, advertisements for staff. It appears to have opened in late 1949. Before this there are mentions of a Hygrove House, or Hygrove Manor, in Minsterworth which seems to have been a private residence. There are other references under this name in the 19C and early 20C including some concerning its disposal. No references after 1950. Hygrove is marked in the far top left corner of this map,

http://maps.nls.uk/view/101453436

There was also a Hampton House School but this was located in Stroud and seems to be unrelated.

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Saturday, December 20, 2014, 01:55 (3627 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

I'm afraid I can only offer a few historical details and nothing of specific help to your query, sorry.

Hygrove was the Nursing Home nr Minsterworth my paternal Grandmother lived her last few months during the mid 1990s, I didn't visit it, so need to ask my mother.

From the net, it's a Listed building dating from the early C18th, it was the seat of the Lord of the Manor;
http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-134374-hygrove-house-minsterworth-gloucestershi
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/resources/kelly-s-directory-1879/68-minsterworth

Looks like the home may have closed in 2013, which explains it's odd appearance when I drove past in the summer!.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393294/Southern-Cross-Healthcare-destroyed-Ste...


This prior thread briefly mentions the House and in your timeframe.
www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=26245


From the excellent Victoria History website;.

"The lawyer Charles Barrow, lord of Minsterworth from 1750, moved from Churcham to establish Hygrove House as the new seat of the manor and was created a baronet in 1784. Charles Evans, lord of Minsterworth from 1789 and a partner of Gloucester’s Old Bank, was declared bankrupt in 1816, after which Hygrove House was let out to tenants, including a naval captain in 1823. The property was occupied by Revd Henry Barrow Evans, uncle of the absentee owner Charles Barrow Evans, in 1839 and in 1851 Henry was one of six householders in Minsterworth employing domestic servants. Hygrove House was again let in 1870 and remained so until the 1920s, when its last tenant employed a gardener and a chauffeur.26 In 1901 its occupant was Frederick Harvey, a cattle farmer, whose grandson, the poet F.W. Harvey (d. 1957), lived for a time at The Redlands and was buried in the churchyard. Following a spell during the Second World War as headquarters of an insurance company, Hygrove House became a nursing home."

http://www.victoriacountyhistory.ac.uk/sites/default/files/work-in-progress/Minsterwort...


Gloster Archives may be worth a visit, searching their records for "Hampton House Minsterworth" gives 13 hits. The later ones suggest it was sold abt 1947, then various building works done, and then a "general correspondence file (Social services)" from 1948-1970.
Hopefully this link will take you to these hits;
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/DServe/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archiv...

If you're after individual patient records I wonder if Glos Social Services would hold them ?. Be warned there is another Hampton House Care Home near Cheltenham. I presume this query relates to your earlier post wrt the 1957 death of Arthur H Curtis ?

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by goudgess, Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 14:17 (3617 days ago) @ Jefff

Thanks, Jeff. I understand from someone whose aunt was a live-in cook at HH, that it was privately owned by Mr and Mrs Leonard Thurston until they retired in the mid 60's and then the County Council took it on. This person also tells me that there were several wooden huts in the grounds of HH: she wonders whether it may have been a temporary military hospital after the insurance company gave it up?

She also says that it wasn't so much a place specifically for the elderly: she knew of a boy who had had a brain haemorrahage who was there: other patients used to help out in the garden and doing odd jobs as a means of recuperation.

I have emailed Glos archives and am awaiting their reply.

Sarah

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 15:40 (3617 days ago) @ goudgess

Hi Sarah, thanks for posting.
If I'm right in thinking your likely timescale wrt the huts is still 1950s, so well after the Wars, despite not being an expert I'd have thought it unlikely the huts were for military use assuming they still had patients at that time, also seems an odd location for a military hospital ?. That said, the huts may have been originally built for military camp use somewhere, several war-surplus huts were sold-off after the wars and transported many miles to their new homes ?.
I wonder if they were perhaps TB wards, fresh air being considered a standard treatment for this terrible disease ?.

This was the first link a quick google re "tb wards" produced, which by coincidence is the right era (I think ?), and almost the right area ?.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/6571543.stm

Then again Standish was already the local TB hospital, so maybe not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standish_Hospital

??

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by goudgess, Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 17:37 (3617 days ago) @ Jefff

Hi Jeff.
My contact says it was definitely not a TB sanitorium or an isolation hospital. Apparently the wooden huts were used by a mushroom farmer in the 7Os.
The person I am researching and who died in HH had been working in munitions in Cowley, Oxford. I wonder what made him leave his family and go to Glos.
Sarah

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 19:25 (3616 days ago) @ goudgess

Hi Sarah,
I was going to ask if you've written an open letter of enquiry for the local paper to hopefully publish, The Citizen in this case I would think ?.
However then I thought you might be better off asking the folks in Minsterworth itself, if you haven't already, thought maybe post a notice at the Village Hall, I think(?) it's well-used. In that respect this website looks a good starting point, Terry Moore-Scott has produced 3 books about the village so could be worth looking-up (apologies if you've already seen/tried this from your own searches), looks like his direct email on this first link.
http://www.minsterworth.org/images/Xmas%20flyer.pdf
http://minsterworth.org/MCHP%20Gallery.htm
http://minsterworth.org/MCHP.htm

If you're in Glostershire then local librairies carry these books, hope the following link takes you to "Minsterworth" hits; if not this is the catalogue home page http://capitadiscovery.co.uk/gloslibraries/).
http://capitadiscovery.co.uk/gloslibraries/items?query=minsterworth

Googling Terry Moore-Scott suggests he's the ideal starting point to ask on all things Minsterworth history.

Re why your subject moved from Cowley to Glos, was this during the war, there were many munitions esp aircraft companies in the Gloster/Cheltenham area plus British Accoustic Films at Mitcheldean. However soon after the war ended many contracts were cancelled and many jobs too. If you want more help trying to answer this question then we need more info, presumably there were no family links in Glos (I have no idea where you are or your local knowledge.

Hope this helps, if you do learn more then please consider adding to this thread, thanks J

PS for Terry also see http://www.fandvos.org.uk/terry-moore-scott/4583461362

PPS another possible source ? http://www.minsterworth.org/The%20Villager%2013-7.pdf

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by goudgess, Tuesday, December 30, 2014, 19:59 (3616 days ago) @ Jefff

Hi Jeff.
I live in Winchester and London.
I posted a notice in The Citizen which is how the lady whose aunt worked at HH found me. Will also try Terry Moore Scott etc.
Arthur Curtis had no connections with Glos at all. He hoved from Coalville in Leicestershire, worked in Shire took Colliery, joined the Fusiliers in Great War, married in 1916 (Oxford girl), caught Spanish flu, had 6 sons and a girl, worked at Cowley during 2nd War and then walked out on his family when he discovered his wife was unfaithful
None of his boys or girl (all dead now and their kids haven't a clue) knew what happened to him. I got a pd to find his death certificate-hence how I know he died at HH. I also have got a professional researcher working on archives for me. He wad buried in a common grave with 3 unnamed others. Very sad. I should mention hr isn't my ancestor but a friend's grandfather.
Sarah

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by Kitty, Thursday, April 14, 2016, 20:58 (3145 days ago) @ goudgess

As a keen family historian and great grand-daughter of the late Arthur Henry Curtis of Minsterworth I take exception to the comment in the previous post that "their kids haven't a clue". I have researched this family for more than ten years, in a search that has taken me back generations, to the National Archive, the British Museum, Ireland and on a fascinating journey unearthing a treasure trove of surprises. It took me no more than a week waiting for a death certificate to find Arthur Henry and I did not pay a private detective. This cost no more than £9 for the cost of the certificate. I am surprised that someone would take payment for a relatively simple piece of family research. I am also surprised that in the course of this research no one tracked down my mother, the daughter from the first marriage of one of Arthur's sons and one of the "kids who haven't a clue".

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by goudgess, Friday, April 15, 2016, 08:59 (3145 days ago) @ Kitty

I do apologise for this but A.H.Curtis's granddaughter did find and meet some of her cousins who told her they'hadn't a clue.' We didn't get round to tracking down everyone I am afraid so please forgive me.

Angela did hear of an Irish connection but so far we have not been able to find it. I can eaily put you in touch with her (she is the daugher of the fifth son)as she would be so pleased. I think we felt we had come to a dead end once the death certificat ehad been found as had no idea what may have propelled Arthur to leave Oxford for Gloucestershire.


Sarah

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by goudgess, Sunday, April 17, 2016, 08:08 (3143 days ago) @ goudgess

I wonder if your grandfather may have been Walter Curtis. My friend did find and meet Nigel in Oxford - IF he is your uncle then he told us that he had no idea where his sister, Iris (if she is your mother)is. Apparently there is a legacy awaiting for her which has never been claimed.


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