Joseph EVANS, blacksmith of Pauntley c1911, born Woolaston (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 23:20 (3539 days ago)

A wellknown online auction site is currently listing an old postcard carrying a fine photo of a blacksmith with his family, the listing helpfully includes excellent images of both sides of the card. The portrait background includes the name "J.Evans", chalked-on what is presumably his own smithy. The card has lost it's stamp and postmark, but the seller has estimated it's date around 1905. The message is from "Lizzie and baby, from? Newent", addressed to "Liz? and Fred" of the Ball family, 22 Mount Street, Gloucester. The card doesn't give any clues as to the publisher, presumably it was produced locally for the blacksmith, maybe as an advertising device. The image also includes a part-obscured poster which may read "Dymock".


As well as being an interesting family portrait, I'm posting this in the hope a forum reader might know the family, it would be great if the card could find it's way home. I hope this FoD site are happy with me posting this link, which must be opened in it's own new window;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181682208968?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK...

Please be assured I am not in any way linked to the seller, or the family, I will not be bidding.


My researches show this is the family in the photograph, the card's message presumably written by wife Elizabeth, the aforementioned "baby" being Mary aged 8months;


1911 Census; Pool Hill, Pauntley, Newent

Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Years Married Occupation Birth Place Address
Joseph Evans Head 1874 37 Male Married 6yrs Master Blacksmith Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Evans Wife 1872 39 Female Married 6yrs Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Barbara Evans Daughter 1905 6 Female Pauntley, Gloucestershire
Mary Evans Daughter 1910 8/12 Female Pauntley, Gloucestershire

From this site's PRs;

Record_ID: 68353
Entry_Number: 689
Year: 1873
Month: Aug
Day: 10
Parents_Surname: EVANS
Child_Forenames: Joseph Jenkins
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Harriett
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: William Somerset Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: E152


Hence;

1901 Census, Alvington, Glos

Name Relation to Head Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
John Evans Head(blacksmith) 54 1847 Male Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Harriett Evans Wife 54 1847 Female Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England
Joseph Evans Son(gen labourer) 28 1873 Male Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England
George Evans Son 20 1881 Male Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Kate Evans Daughter 18 1883 Female Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Clara Evans Daughter 16 1885 Female Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Evans Daughter 14 1887 Female Alvington, Gloucestershire, England
Walter Evans Son 12 1889 Male Alvington, Gloucestershire, England


From GlosBMD;

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
EVANS Joseph Jenkins EVANS EVANS JONES 1873 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 14 298


Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
EVANS Joseph Jenkins BALL Elizabeth Frances Gloucester Gloucester All Saints Closed 1904 23 No 3 177

Hence;

Record_ID: 68317
Entry_Number: 653
Year: 1871
Month: Oct
Day: 8
Parents_Surname: BALL
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth Frances
Fathers_Forenames: Sam
Mothers_Forenames: Margaret
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Fisherman
Officiating_Minister: William Somerset Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 82
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: B400


Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BALL Samuel WATKINS Margaret Forest of Dean Woolaston St Andrew 1863 1 156


1911 Census, 22 Mount Street, Gloucester

Name Relation to Head Birth Date Age Gender Marital Status Years Married Occupation Birth Place Address
Frederick Thomas Ball Head 1878 33 Male Married 5yrs Police Constable Gloucester County Constabulary Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Alice Ball Wife 1881 30 Female Married 5yrs Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Samuel Thomas Ball Son 1907 4 Male Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Lizzie Protherough Boarder 1885 26 Female Single Laundress Charlton King, Gloucestershire
Alice Boughton Visitor 1885 26 Female Single Domestic servant Upleadon, Gloucestershire.


Record_ID: 34058
Entry_Number: 342
Year: 1905
Month: Jun
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: BALL
Grooms_Forenames: Frederick Tom
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Police Constable
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Ball
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Fisherman
Brides_Surname: BOUGHTON
Brides_Forenames: Alice Eliza
Brides_Age: 25
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Boughton
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Alfred Henry Ball
Witness_2: Mary Remnant
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Willis F A Lambert Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 171
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex_Groom: B400
Soundex_Bride: B235


Birth Details

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BALL Frederick Tom BALL BALL WATKINS 1877 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 16 164


So the card, and blacksmith's wife Elizabeth and baby, are travelling to visit her brother's in Gloucester. He is another PC Ball from Woolaston, see this prior thread.
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=20539

A photo towards the bottom of this page shows a PC 144 Frederick Ball on duty in Gloster in 1912, the same man perhaps ?
http://www.gloucestershirepolicemuseum.co.uk/page_2358856.html

Joseph EVANS, blacksmith of Pauntley c1911, born Woolaston

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Monday, March 16, 2015, 20:40 (3534 days ago) @ Jefff

Thanks Jeff. An interesting photo and story. I guess this family moved on to Upleadon at some point

Gloucestershire Echo Friday 05 August 1932

Tragedy of Elderly Woman Near Newent

Sophia NUNN, aged 72, who lived alone at The Maples, Upleadon, near Newent, was found dead this morning at the bottom of a 30ft well. The discovery was made at 10 o’clock after a postman had called at the house with a letter. He could get no answer and remarked upon that unusual circumstance to Mr Joseph EVANS, a blacksmith, who also lives in Hooks Lane.

Mr EVANS decided to investigate and went to the house, where he also failed to get any answer. On going to the back of the house he discovered that the top was off a well near the door, and on looking down he saw the body at the bottom.

Gloucester Citizen Monday 30 July 1945

DEATH

EVANS – At Hook Lane , Upleadon, Elizabeth Frances, dearly beloved wife of Joseph EVANS. Funeral Tuesday 1.30 Newent Church.

Also,

Gloucester Citizen Monday 28 July 1947

EVANS - In loving memory of dear mother Elizabeth Frances who fell asleep July 28 1945 – ever remembered by Barbara and family.

EVANS - In loving memory of dear mother Elizabeth Frances Evans who died July 28 1945 – Always remembered by all at Corsham.

So maybe family in Wiltshire, between Chippenham and Bath?

Joseph EVANS, blacksmith of Pauntley c1911, born Woolaston

by dink999, Tuesday, March 17, 2015, 16:37 (3533 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Sophia Nunn's inquest is on this site

http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/inquests/php/popup.htm?../images/H6.png

Joseph Evans got 7sh 6d for being a witness

Joseph EVANS, blacksmith of Pauntley c1911, born Woolaston

by gaynoranne, Thursday, March 26, 2015, 18:06 (3524 days ago) @ Jefff

Joseph Jenkins Evans is my great uncle. I have been researching the family for nearly 3 years. This post card would have been really good to have attached to the family story,unfortunately i didn't see this thread until today and have missed the chance to bid
Gaynor

Joseph EVANS, blacksmith of Pauntley c1911, born Woolaston

by nimrod, Friday, March 27, 2015, 09:44 (3523 days ago) @ gaynoranne

You could take a copy of the postcard from the web site. The cottage and smithy were still standing in 1980 after which and the derelict buildings were sold and demolished. I took several photographs before demolition.

Joseph EVANS, blacksmith of Pauntley c1911, born Woolaston

by gaynoranne, Saturday, March 28, 2015, 16:10 (3522 days ago) @ nimrod

I have. Not brilliant, but good enough for my mum to see who they are.

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