Baptism Jane HOLDER possibly Taynton - 1791 ish (Parish Records)

by aussie , Tasmania, Australia, Sunday, October 25, 2015, 10:19 (3105 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Hi MPGriffiths,

Thanks for your reply. No I haven't crossed checked other marriages and children because in my opinion doing so doesn't really prove anything... there were lots of HOLDER folk so there's likely to be lots of HOLDER families in almost every village surrounding Hartpury, where my ancestor Sarah PROBERT was born abt 1813, although her brother Richard was born at Preston. So there could be more than one family with parents Sarah & John Holder. And if Jane wasn't baptised at Taynton then I've no idea who her parents were. Mathon being in 3 counties makes it difficult too. I can't find a baptism for her on FMP nor on FamilySearch.

I do try to cross check other data for less common names, sometimes it works. Trying to ascertain events for common names pre census and pre registration is like looking for a needle in a haystack!

My ancestors are definitely John Probert = Sarah HOLDER as mentioned before. :)

Have you tried cross-checking the other HOLDER marriages around that time, especially at St Mary de Lobe and look at the census to see if you can find where they state place of birth and names given to their children e.g.

Maria HOLDER married Samuel (pin maker) WILKS/WILKES at St Mary de Lobe - 15 December 1807

and had the following children

Ann - 26 December 1811 - St Catherine Glos
William - 24 March 1813 - ditto
William - 6 May 1814 - ditto
Edwin - 12 March 1819 - ditto
Harriet - 5 December 1821 - ditto
Charles - 29 Dcember 1823 - ditto
Charles - 18 January 1824 - ditto
Maria - 22 May 1826 - Glos St Mary de Lobe
Samuel - 31 August 1828 - St Catherine
Alfred - 3 February 1832 - St Catherine
Albert - 12 October 1834 - St Catherine
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Frances - 3 July 1821 - Samuel (labourer) & Maria - Avening Holy Cross

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Look for family names as Jane & John -

Maria - 1811
Joseph - 1815
William - 1817
Ambrose - 1819
Richard - 1821
John - 1823
Samuel - 1824
Phoebe - 1825

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Sarah HOLDER of St Catherine married William VINER at St Mary de Lobe 4 December 1814

and a daughter Sarah was christened at St Catherine - 16 September 1815 - William was also a Pinmaker