James Edwards b1796 Newland ? (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, June 01, 2016, 14:41 (3098 days ago) @ chloe

Hi Chloe,
have you searched the forum for old threads that relate to your enquiry ?.
The last post on this thread looks like it may relate to your James, please can you advise whether it matches your findings ? That thread includes a Baptism PR which appears at to be the only one within this site's database that matches the info you've given us, I've reposted it below for ease of reading.

many thanks, J

The old thread is here
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=11481

Record_ID: 187031
Entry_Number: 4
Year: 1796
Month: Jan
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: EDWARDS
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Hester
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Wm. Jones Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes: Father's name expanded
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 67
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: E363

Unfortunately when accessing the Censuses (using Ancestry), things get tricky, there are a few candidates. GlosBMD shows there are several marriages for "James Edwards" in the Forest during these few decades !

This appears to be the above James wrt the above baptism location, altho need to also trace his parents' whereabouts too, if they're still alive.

1841 England Census, Lydney, Glos.
Given Name Surname Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country
James Edwards 45 1796 Male Coalminer. Gloucestershire England
Sarah Edwards 35 1806 Female Gloucestershire England
Charles Edwards 14 1827 Male Gloucestershire England
Richard Edwards 10 1831 Male Gloucestershire England

Record_ID: 25291
Entry_Number: 1080
Year: 1844
Month: Oct
Day: 24
Surname: EDWARDS
Forenames: Sarah
Residence: Lidney
Age_at_death: 46
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/11
Page_No: 135
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: E363

?? Sarah was perhaps fibbing abt her age on the Census ?

Record_ID: 20100
Entry_Number: 91
Year: 1845
Month: Apr
Day: 20
Grooms_Surname: EDWARDS
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: Of full age
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Mason
Grooms_Residence: Lidney
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: EDWARDS
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: CROSS
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age: Of full age
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Lidney
Brides_Fathers_Surname: CARPENTER
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Butcher
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: William Lea
Witness_2: Jame James
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Taylor
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/15
Page_Number: 46
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex_Groom: E363
Soundex_Bride: C620

(GlosBMD confirms Hannah Cross is nee Carpenter)

Record_ID: 302674
Entry_Number:
Year: 1791
Month: May
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: CARPENTER
Child_Forenames: Hannah
Fathers_Forenames: Edward
Mothers_Forenames: Eliz[abe]th
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: [not stated]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/2
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Walford
Soundex: C615

1851 England Census, Newerne village, Lydney, Glos.
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
James Edwards Head 55 1796 Male Mason. Longhepe, Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Edwards Wife 58 1793 Female Walford, Herefordshire, England
Richard Edwards Son 19 1832 Male Mason. Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
James Smith Grandson 10 1841 Male Mason's labourer. Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Carpenter Niece 20 1831 Female House servant. Walford, Herefordshire, England

Record_ID: 391912
Entry_Number:
Year: 1795
Month: Mar
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: EDWARDS
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Dinah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P206 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 119
Parish_Chapel: Longhope
Soundex: E363

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However, this could also be our James, especially as one of his daughters is named Hester (after his mother?), and the household includes an elderly gentleman named William, who may well be his father ?.

1841 England Census Newland, St Briavels, Glos.
Given Name Surname Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country
James Edwards 45 1796 Male Collier. Gloucestershire England
Ann Edwards 45 1796 Female NOT born in Glos
Charles Edwards 20 1821 Male Collier. NOT born in Glos
James Edwards 18 1823 Male Collier. NOT born in Glos
William Edwards 16 1825 Collier. Gloucestershire England
Hester Edwards 14 1827 Female Gloucestershire England
Frances Edwards 12 1829 Female Gloucestershire England
Henry Edwards 10 1831 Male Gloucestershire England
William Edwards 89 1752 Male Gloucestershire England
(The above census looks like it COULD be linked to the 1851 posted above, if hannah was heard as Anna, Ann; but in this case I don't think so...?)

1851 England Census, Yorkley?, Bream, Newland, Glos.
House Number Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
James Edwards Head 55 1796 Male Coal miner. West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Edwards Wife 56 1795 Female Habton, Worcestershire, England
Esther Edwards Daughter 23 1828 Female Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Fanny Edwards Daughter 21 1830 Female Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Henry Edwards Son 18 1833 Male Coal miner. Gloucestershire, England