William HOLDER c1847 Thornbury (General)

by MPGriffiths , Thursday, August 18, 2016, 18:03 (3025 days ago) @ rena phillips

If you look at Gloucestershirebmd

HOLDER: Mother's maiden name TOMBLINS/TOMLINS

Forest of Dean: Monmouth Coleford

Annie - 1875
Polly - 1878
Annis - 1880
Willie Henry - 1882
Milson - 1884
Elton - 1886
Oliver Elizabeth - 1888

On the Forest of Dean records - the following children of

William & Elizabeth HOLDER were all christened on the same day : Parish Church Clearwell

21 June 1887 - residence: Milkwall - father: William (Collier) & Elizabeth

Polly
Annie
Maud ** (mother's maiden name: BIRD)
Willie Henry
Alice
Milson
Caleb ** (mother's maide name: BIRD)
Elton

All together on the 1891 census - West Dean, Monmouthshire, Wales

On the 1881 census - William HOLDER'S wife is named Emma (as transcribed on Family Search)

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1881 Census, West Dean, Monmouthshire Wales

William HOLDER - aged 34, Coal Miner, born West Dean c1847
Emma HOLDER - 26 - born West Dean

+ children

Caleb
Anne
Maud
Kate
Annis

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? Gloucestershirebdm

has

Caleb HOLDER - 1873 - mother's maiden name: BIRD
Maud HOLDER - 1877 - mother's maiden name: BIRD

????
In 1887 christening: William & Elizabeth had children Caleb and Maud christened along with the other children...

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1871 Census, Coleford

Ann ALLEN - 48 - born Shortstanding
Harriet A BIRD - Niece - 8 - born Beaufort, Monmouthshire
John SWEENEY - Lodger - 63 - born Ireland
Mary Ann TOMLINS - Niece - aged 20 - born Coleford
Elizabeth TOMLINS - Niece - aged 18 - born Coleford.

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If you look at previous thread

1861 Census

John NELMES - 1826
Emma NELMES - 1823 - born Berkeley
Caleb NELMES - 1853
Clara NELMES - 1858
Rosa NELMES - 1855
Sarah NELMES - 1849
William HOLDER - 1846 - (Wife's Son - Stepson) - born Rockhampton, Gloucestershire

Looking at the children of John & Emma NELMES - the mother's maiden name is HOLDER

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Gloucestershire Baptism Index CD

at Owlpen Holy Cross

Eluma (as translated) HOLDER - 29 August 1824

parents: David (occ: Weaver) & Elizabeth

siblings:

Jane - 29 August 1828
Ralph - 11 January 1832

David HOLDER married Elizabeth FISHER - at Uley 23 January 1815 by banns.

As Eluma/Emma isn't with her parents on the 1841 census....

? On the 1841 census Cheltenham
North Street, Late Grey House Lane

with Wm DREW and his family is

Emmy HOLDER - aged 15-19