Bird in the Hand Pub, Broadwell 1870-1890, BLANCH family (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Friday, August 26, 2016, 01:08 (3012 days ago) @ Jefff

Also in the 1891 household was William J Blanch b1865, of different parents again ? ;

Record_ID: 103395
Entry_Number:
Year: 1865
Month: May
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: BLANCH
Child_Forenames: William John
Fathers_Forenames: Elijah
Mothers_Forenames: Harriet
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born 24 Apr 1865
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: D5533 1/1
Page_Number: 84
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Congregational
Soundex: B452

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Record_ID: 3960
Entry_Number: 271
Year: 1896
Month: Sep
Day: 24
Grooms_Surname: BLANCH
Grooms_Forenames: William John
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Sanitary Inspector
Grooms_Residence: Coleford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Blanch
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Elijah (deceased)
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Roadman
Brides_Surname: ROACH
Brides_Forenames: Frances Mary
Brides_Age: 27
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Coleford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Roach
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Quarryman
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Joseph Roach
Witness_2: Elizabeth Maria Blanch
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: A W Cornwall
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 136
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex_Groom: B452
Soundex_Bride: R200

Is Elijah the brother to the William who married Emma Tyler, and are witnesses at Elijah's marriage ?

Record_ID: 14749
Entry_Number: 38
Year: 1863
Month: Oct
Day: 31
Grooms_Surname: BLANCH
Grooms_Forenames: Elijah
Grooms_Age: 26
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Blanch
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Quarryman
Brides_Surname: COOK
Brides_Forenames: Harriett
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Pillowell
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Cook
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Blanch
Witness_2: Emma Tyler
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Jo[hn] Jo[seph] Elsworth incumbent
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 19
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex_Groom: B452
Soundex_Bride: C200

Searching Elijah in the Census also finds William, the form doesn't list William as a son-in-law specifically, but... ??
(Here John and in 1871 Elijah are both roadmen, a trend in this family)

1851 Census, Five Acres, West Dean.
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth Place
John Williams Head 45 1806 Male Road labourer. Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Williams Wife 37 1814 Female London, England
Elizah Blanch Son-in-law 14 1837 Male Newland, Gloucestershire, England
William Blanch 11 1840 Male Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Wilson Williams 4 1847 Male Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Maria Williams 8 Mo 1850 Female Newland, Gloucestershire, England

Note that by 1861 John is an Innkeeper, and his wife Mary is born in London c1815, so clearly this is Mary Marlin, and William is her son.

1861 Census, Five Acres, West Dean
Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country
John Williams Head 60 1801 Male Innkeeper Newland Gloucestershire England
Mary Williams Wife 45 1816 Female Lambeth Surrey England
William Blanch Son-in-law 21 1840 Male Labourer Newland Gloucestershire England
Maria Williams Daughter 10 1851 Female West Dean Gloucestershire England
Mary Ann Williams Daughter 6 1855 Female West Dean Gloucestershire England

Record_ID: 28057
Entry_Number: 52
Year: 1842
Month: Dec
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: WILLIAMS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: Full
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Berry Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Williams
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m.
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: BLANCH
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: Full
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Berry Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Rann[?]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m.
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Whip Maker
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Peter Darby
Witness_2: Margaret Darby
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Frederick Stonhouse Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P175 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 26
Parish_Chapel: Hewelsfield
Soundex_Groom: W452
Soundex_Bride: B452

Note that Mary Blanch is a widow, her father is shown here as "Rann ?", as per her sister Maria's surname in the 1891 Census.

Searching Mary's marriage to a Marlin;

Record_ID: 2399
Entry_Number: 174
Year: 1865
Month: Jul
Day: 23
Grooms_Surname: MARLIN
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age: full
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Publican
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Marlin
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Quarryman
Brides_Surname: WILLIAMS
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: full
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Five Acres
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Rann ?
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Whipmaker
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Blanch
Witness_2: Mark of John Jones
Other_Witnesses: None
Officiating_Minister: W. H. Taylor
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: -
Notes: -
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex_Groom: M645
Soundex_Bride: W452

Mary would be widowed again before the 1871 Census;

Record_ID: 88974
Entry_Number: 800
Year: 1868
Month: May
Day: 23
Surname: MARLIN
Forenames: James
Residence: Lane End
Age_at_death: 57
Officiating_Minister: W.H.Taylor
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/13
Page_No: 100
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex: M645