Lewis family (General)

by philrmoon11, Monday, February 13, 2017, 20:03 (2840 days ago)

Hi can anyone help please,

William Lewis and Louisa Morris married in Monmouth and had a son Edwin
Trying to trace Edwin born 1866 who he married and his whereabouts after 1871 and the names of any children
I believe there was a maud, David and Reginald but not definitely sure,

Regards Phil

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by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Monday, February 13, 2017, 22:25 (2840 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Is this him in 1871?

GR 1871 Census, Monmouth, Buckholt Rd,

William LEWIS, Head, Mar, 37, Haulier, b. Linton, Gloucestershire
Louisa, Wife, Mar, 31, Dixton, Monmouth
Edwin, Son, 5, Whitchurch, Herefordshire
Anne, Daur, 3, Dixton, Monmouthshire
Matilda, Daur, 8m, Monmouth

If so this could well be him in 1881,

GR 1881 Census, Dixton, Monmouth, Buckholt Mill,

Thomas WAITE, Head, Mar, 32, Miller, b. Northamptonshire, Bugbrook
Angelina, Wife, Mar, 29, Herefordshire, Orcop
Gertrude, Daur, 4, Monmouth, Dixton
Richard, Son, 2, Monmouth, Dixton
Edwin LEWIS, Serv, 14, Hereford, Whitchurch
Henry GOUGH, Serv, 14, Hereford, Orcop

Not sure about 1891 and 1901 but this for 1911?

GR 1911 Census, 11, Glynmawr St, Abertillery, Monmouth,

John Edwin LEWIS, Head, 44, Mar, Miner, b. Whitchurch, Herefordshire
Esther, Wife, 45, Mar, Bredwardine, Herefordshire
David C.H, Son, 11, ????, Monmouthshire
Catherine M, Daur, 10, ???? Monmouthshire
Reginald J, Son, 9, ???? Monmouthshire
William HYDE, Nephew, 20, Single, Miner, Bredwardine, Herefordshire

12(?) years the marriage, 11 children, 5 alive, 6 died.
5 rooms in the house.

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 17:32 (2839 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Not sure about 1891 and 1901 but this for 1911?

GR 1911 Census, 11, Glynmawr St, Abertillery, Monmouth,

John Edwin LEWIS, Head, 44, Mar, Miner, b. Whitchurch, Herefordshire
Esther, Wife, 45, Mar, Bredwardine, Herefordshire
David C.H, Son, 11, ????, Monmouthshire
Catherine M, Daur, 10, ???? Monmouthshire
Reginald J, Son, 9, ???? Monmouthshire
William HYDE, Nephew, 20, Single, Miner, Bredwardine, Herefordshire

12(?) years the marriage, 11 children, 5 alive, 6 died.
5 rooms in the house.


The most likely Baptism for this Edwin that I can see in this site's PRs is;

Record_ID: 387727
Entry_Number: 484
Year: 1865
Month: Oct
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: LEWIS
Child_Forenames: John Edwin
Fathers_Forenames: William George
Mothers_Forenames: Louisa
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitchurch
Occupation: Butcher
Officiating_Minister: W Day MA Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: There is written in the margin PB
Register_Reference: AC76/2
Page_Number: 61
Parish_Chapel: Whitchurch
Soundex: L200

This looks like the same family you found in the 1871 Census ?.

FreeBMD births for Monmouth are as follows, the name isn't as common as I'd first suspected with only one born c1865, which rather confirms the above baptism is indeed our Edwin.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
LEWIS Edwin Thomas Monmouth 11a 35
Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
LEWIS Edwin Monmouth 11a 45
Births Dec 1865

Lewis John Edwin Monmouth 11a 34
Births Dec 1874 (>99%)
Lewis Edwin Monmouth 11a 46

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Searched FreeBMD using various spellings names I cannot see Edwin & Esther's marriage, odd !!??

Ditto the 1901 Census using FamilySearch ??

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Pretty sure this is son David's birth.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
Lewis David Clarence H Pontypool 11a 155

Cannot find any mnore records for him, which is odd, given that Clarence is a rare name compared to, say, the numerous David Charles Lewis' etc.
??

There are several "Catherine M" born in the South Wales area at this time, vast majority are May and Mary.
However this matches Phil's name, and the most likely if still in Pontypool;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
LEWIS Catherine Maud Pontypool 11a 175

Due to FreeBMD only quoting "Catherine M" after 1911, cannot find her marriage etc with any certainty.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


Oddly, cannot find any records at all for son Reginald ??

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by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 20:26 (2839 days ago) @ Jefff

If the number of years of the marriage in 1911 could be read as 17 instead of 12 (possible and rather more reasonable) that would place it c1894. This is, at least, a possibility,

GR Marriages,

First Name John
Last Name Lewis
Gender Male
Year 1894
Spouse
Image Quarter 1
Country Wales
County Glamorganshire
District Pontardawe
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 11A
Page 1071
Line Number 287
Entry Number

John Lewis married one of the people below:

Esther Ann DAVIES
Elizabeth Ann JOSHUA

A candidate for Esther’s death from GR?
First Name Esther
Last Name Lewis
Gender Female
Year 1917
Birth Year 1867
Birth Month
Birth Day
District Bedwellty
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Event Quarter 1
District Number
Page 107
Line Number 38
Entry Number

Incidentally, I now think the childrens’ birthplace in 1911 reads Pontrhydyrun.

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by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 23:33 (2839 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Thanks Mike, makes sense with the Marriage date ! Wonder if there were more children then ?

Also for the placename, which fits my Pontypool records perfectly.

"PONTRHYDYRUN, in the parish of Llanfrechfa, it is a station on the Eastern Valleys branch of the Monmouthshire railway, 2 miles from Pontypool."
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llanfrechfa/Gaz1868

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by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 23:40 (2838 days ago) @ Jefff

I think the 1894 marriage of a John LEWIS to an Esther Ann DAVIES which I posted earlier is a complete red herring. This looks a better scenario. All from GR.

GR 1871 Census, Monmouth, Buckholt Rd,

William LEWIS, Head, Mar, 37, Haulier, b. Linton, Gloucestershire
Louisa, Wife, Mar, 31, Dixton, Monmouth
Edwin, Son, 5, Whitchurch, Herefordshire
Anne, Daur, 3, Dixton, Monmouthshire
Matilda, Daur, 8m, Monmouth

GR 1881 Census, Dixton, Monmouth, Buckholt Mill,

Thomas WAITE, Head, Mar, 32, Miller, b. Northamptonshire, Bugbrook
Angelina, Wife, Mar, 29, Herefordshire, Orcop
Gertrude, Daur, 4, Monmouth, Dixton
Richard, Son, 2, Monmouth, Dixton
Edwin LEWIS, Serv, 14, Hereford, Whitchurch
Henry GOUGH, Serv, 14, Hereford, Orcop

GR 1891 Census, 3, Weymouth Place, Sebastopol, Mon (close to Pontrhydyrun)

John LEWIS, Head, Mar, 24, Platelayer, b. Hereford, Whitchurch
Jane, Wife, Mar, 26, Monmouth, Llanllowell
Ernest, Son, 1, Monmouth, ?????
Luke Waters, Father-in-law, Wid, 58, Farm Labourer, Monmouth, Llanishen
Laura LEWIS, Sister, 18, General Servant Domestic, Hereford, Buckholt.

Their marriage?

First Name Jane
Last Name Waters
Gender Female
Year 1885
Spouse
Image Quarter 3
Country Wales
County Monmouthshire
District Pontypool
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 11A
Page 172
Line Number 313
Entry Number
Jane Waters married one of the people below:
John Edwin LEWIS
Eli ROWLAND

Jane’s death?

First Name Jane
Last Name Lewis
Gender Female
Year 1897
Birth Year 1865
Birth Month
Birth Day
District Pontypool
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Event Quarter 3
District Number
Page 85
Line Number 211
Entry Number

GR 1901 Census, Pontnewynydd, Mon

John LEWIS, Head, Mar, 34, Railway Platelayer, b Hereford, Whitchurch
Adeline Ada, Wife, 28, Mon, Llan??????
Ernest John, Son 11, Mon, Llan??????
Catherine Maud, Daur, 7m, Mon, Llan??????
David Clarence, Son, 1, Mon, Llan?????
Annie KIDNER, Niece, 7, Mon, Llan?????
Arthur KIDNER, Brother-in-law, 44, Roller man in tinplate works, Mon, Abertillery

Their marriage?

Adeline Ada
Last Name Kidner
Gender Female
Year 1898
Spouse
Image Quarter 2
Country Wales
County Monmouthshire
District Newport (Monmouthshire)
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 11A
Page 340
Line Number 93
Entry Number
Adeline Ada Kidner married one of the people below:
John Edwin LEWIS
Charles ATHAY

Adeline’s death?

First Name Adeline Ada
Last Name Lewis
Gender Female
Year 1906
Birth Year 1871
Birth Month
Birth Day
District Bedwellty
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Event Quarter 2
District Number
Page 38
Line Number 138
Entry Number

GR 1911 Census, 11, Glynmawr St, Abertillery, Monmouth,

John Edwin LEWIS, Head, 44, Mar, Miner, b. Whitchurch, Herefordshire
Esther, Wife, 45, Mar, Bredwardine, Herefordshire
David C.H, Son, 11, ????, Monmouthshire
Catherine M, Daur, 10, ???? Monmouthshire
Reginald J, Son, 9, ???? Monmouthshire
William HYDE, Nephew, 20, Single, Miner, Bredwardine, Herefordshire

12(?) years the marriage, 11 children, 5 alive, 6 died.
5 rooms in the house.

Therefore what we are missing is a marriage of John Edwin LEWIS to an Esther sometime between 1906 and 1911. This is the only one I can see which fits,

First Name John Edwin
Last Name Lewis
Gender Male
Year 1907
Spouse
Image Quarter 2
Country Wales
County Glamorganshire
District Cardiff
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 11A
Page 767
Line Number 144
Entry Number
John Edwin Lewis married one of the people below:
Louise STAVROW
Esther HYDE

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by philrmoon11, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 17:58 (2839 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Thanks for the information Mike

Yes Edwin born at whitchurch 1865 the only child baptised there

John edwin married 3 times due to the wives popping of in fact he outlived all 3 and died 1931 63 years of age


Regards phil

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by philrmoon11, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 17:58 (2839 days ago) @ philrmoon11

And thanks to Geoff also

Regards Phil

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by philrmoon11, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 17:59 (2839 days ago) @ philrmoon11

Sorry Jeff also

Phil

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