James Parker and Susanna Norris Families (General)

by raclark02 ⌂, Richmond, Virginia, USA, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 02:53 (2758 days ago)

James L. Parker married Susanna Parker 19 Feb 1846 in Tidenham, Gloucestershire, England. They sailed for America in 1850.

I’m looking for any information on James and Susanna’s parents:

James & Jane Parker

Matthew & Margaret Norris

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Richard A. Clark II

James Parker and Susanna Norris Families

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 08:31 (2758 days ago) @ raclark02

For Starters:

Parish Records on this site, the marriage

Marriage at Tidenham

19 February 1846


James PARKER, full age, Bachelor, occupation: Shoemaker
residence: Boughspring, Tidenham

father: James PARKER, labourer

Susanna NORRIS, full age, Spinster, occupation: Servant, residence: The Mead, Tidenham

father: Matthew NORRIS, occupation, labourer


both sign

witnesses: Mark of Matthew NORRIS and Rachel ARNOLD


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On the 1851 census

Matthew NORRIS ( age 67) was born in Wiltshire Lineham (Lyneham)

Margaret NORRIS was born in Kent, Matham


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? a possible

Family Search

Christening at Lyneham Wiltshire:

16 May 1780

Matthias NORRIES, parents: William & Mary

(as Matthew had two sons named William is does seem plausible)


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A...... Baptism at Lyneham, Wiltshire

22 April 1787

James NORRIS, parents: William & Mary

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If you were/are born in Wiltshire (as was I) you are known as 'Moonrakers' and there are tales on the 'net', why one is called by this name.

Matthew NORRIS christened Lyneham: 16 May 1780

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 10:22 (2758 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

?? is the correct Matthew

I was trying to work out why some-one from Wiltshire, would marry a girl from Kent (which was a Military area)

National Archives (which can be downloaded from FindmyPast)


MATTHEW NORRIS, Born Lynhum Wiltshire
Served in Fife Fencibles; 50th Foot Regiment

Date: 1801-1818


Discharged aged 39 (Discharged in 1818) = born c1779 - which ties in with the baptism 1780

covering dates give year of enlistment to year of discharge.


Baptisms at Tidenham start not long afterwards i.e. 28 March 1819

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Margaret was probably from Chatham, Kent (not Macham) as per Census returns


** Chatham - Military Barracks etc


National Archives has other Wiltshire males in the same regiment - so must have been a drive to recruit in Wiltshire at that time.

Matthew NORRIS christened Lyneham: 16 May 1780

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 11:09 (2758 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

GR 1841 Census, Wibdon Hamlet, Tidenham

Matthew NORRIS, 60, Army P, born in county
Margarett, 50, born in county

Matthew NORRIS christened Lyneham: 16 May 1780

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 11:45 (2758 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Ancestry (image available on Fold3 - 7-day free trial available)

Ireland, Royal Hospital Kilmainham Pensioner Discharge Documents

Name: Mathw Norris
Discharge Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1779
Birth Place: Chippenham Wiltshire
Discharge Date: 21 Oct 1818
Discharge Place: Dublin, Leinster, Ireland
Regiment: Fiftieth Regiment of Foot
Rank: Private

Matthew NORRIS christened Lyneham: 16 May 1780

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 16:44 (2758 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

In fact the document is available on Genes Reunited. It says,

The Fiftieth Regiment of Foot

Wherof General Sir James DUFF Kt is Colonel

THESE ARE TO CERTIFY

THAT Private Matw NORRIS born in the Parish of Lynhum in or near the town of Chippenham in the County of Wiltshire was enlisted of the aforesaid Regiment at Kilkenny in the County of Kilkenny on the third day of April 1803 at the age of twenty three years for unde??????? Service.
That he hath served in the army for the space of seventeen Years and 202 Days after the Age of Eighteen according to the subjoined

STATEMENT OF SERVICE

Fencible Fusiliers, 3 April 1801 – 2 April 1803, Private, 2 years
50th Foot, 3 April 1803 – 21st October 1818, Private, 15 years 202 days

That in consequence of epilepsy

HE IS HEREBY DISCHARGED

That he is not to my knowledge, incapacitated by the Sentence of a General Court Martial from receiving Pension

That his General Conduct as a Soldier had been good.

Signed by Matthew NORRIS [in a confident hand] to confirm he has received all pay and arrears due.

To prevent any improper use being made of this discharge , by its falling into other Hands, the following is a description of the said Matthew NORRIS. He is about thirty nine Years of Age, is Five Feet six Inches in height, Brown hair, Grey eyes, Fair Complexion and by Trade or Occupation a Labourer.

Thanks!

by raclark02 ⌂, Richmond, Virginia, USA, Sunday, May 07, 2017, 20:38 (2758 days ago) @ raclark02

Thanks for all the information. Let me organize everything and get back. My wife & I leave for London, Chepstow, Dublin on the 17th so I will have plenty to think about. Thanks again! Richard Clark

Richard Clark
Chesterfield, Virginia
raclark02@verizon.net

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Richard A. Clark II

PARKER - Tidenham

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, May 09, 2017, 16:18 (2756 days ago) @ raclark02

Forest of Dean records

Baptisms at Tidenham: Parents: James & Jane PARKER

Maria : 1791
Philip : 1793
Harriott : 1795
Rebecca : 1798
Richard : 1800
Jane : 1803
James : 1805
John : 1809

Burial at Tidenham :

James PARKER : 13 September 1834 aged 72 (=C1762)

An.... (Philip PARKER married Alis JAMES - 17 May 1733 Tidenham)


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A..... and looking for family names

Baptisms at Tidenham

(full list on Forest of Dean records)

Father: PHILIP PARKER


James : 17 October 1762


and siblings (note family names)

Phillip : 5 January 1752
Jane : 14 April 1754
Rachel : 19 October 1755-1756
Margerey : 2 July 1758
John : 18 November 1759-1760

Jane PARKER Nee ? (c1761)

by MPGriffiths @, Tuesday, May 09, 2017, 16:58 (2756 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

1841 Census, Tidenham
District 6
Widen Hamlet


PARKER

Jane - 80 Ind - all born in County
Richard - 40 - Shoemaker (born 1800)
Rebecca - 40 - Ind - born 1798
James - 30 - Shoemaker

1861 Census, Tidenham

Richard PARKER - 60 - Shoemaker - born Tidenham
Rebecca PARKER - 63 - Housekeeper, sister - born Tidenham

Thanks so much!

by raclark02 ⌂, Richmond, Virginia, USA, Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 03:21 (2755 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Awesome! I now have moved back two generations. I can't thank you enough. I also checked on the Wiltshire "Moonrakers", and found it very interesting. It reminds me of the Poldark series. Looking forward to spending time in England and Wales.

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Richard A. Clark II

Phillip PARKER - born 1711

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 08:20 (2755 days ago) @ raclark02

Back another generation

Ancestry

Baptism at Tidenham: 11 November 1711

Phillip PARKER - father PHILLIP

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Burial at Tidenham: 21 December 1744 : Alle PARKER wife of Phillip


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(There is this tree on Ancestry showing)


Rachel PARKER birth 1755 : Tidenham death 1796 Lydney, Gloucestershire

parents: Phillip PARKER 1711-1790 - Tidenham - and (Mary RICHARDS - 1796 Lydney) (?? 2nd marriage for Phillip) 3 November 1749


Rachel gave birth to a Son: John Hoskins PARKER - 1781-1832 in Lydney


and a Parker tree on Ancestry which gives the burial of Phillip PARKER 14 May 1754 : Tidenham

Phillip PARKER - Apprentice 1548

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, May 10, 2017, 11:35 (2755 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

By Googling:

Phillip PARKER of Tidenham

Under the heading


Calender of Bristol Apprentice Book 1532-1565 University of Bristol ***

and on Page Headed no. 79 (few pages back gives year 1548)

June 25

Philip s of Philip PARKER of Tidenham Glos. Labourer to Walter DAVIS, Glover & Agnes wf for 7 years App to have at end 33/4 f 4/6 etc.


*** This book is for sale on ebay for £10

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