Raymond James Hale baptised 1913 (General)

by Hurricane999, Friday, November 10, 2017, 21:23 (2570 days ago)

Trying to find out more about Raymond James Hale baptised in 1913 at Bailey End Chapel. Mother is listed as Annie and father as Elms a Labourer. Would like to find out more about his mother 'Annie'. Could it be Annie Rook or her daughter Annie? Also have difficulty tracing Raymond James Hale in later life. Any help appreciated.

Raymond James HALE/HAIL/HAILE baptised 1913

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, November 11, 2017, 07:56 (2570 days ago) @ Hurricane999

On the 1911 census and on the marriage of Raymond James HAILE in 1936 (on Ancestry) - the surname is spelt either HAIL/HAILE

Elms HAIL married Anne SMITH - Forest of Dean Holy Trinity Drybrook 1897 (transcript on this website)

Ann was born in Hope Mansell, Hereford (1911 census)


Anne SMITH aged 25 in 1897 - father Daniel SMITH (labourer)

Raymond James HALE/HAIL/HAILE baptised 1913

by shepway @, Saturday, November 11, 2017, 08:31 (2570 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Just to add to MPGriffiths' input:
Raymond’s date of birth is given in the Baptism entry as 12 March 1913 and we find him in the 1939 Register as follows:
Haile Household (2 People)
Schools Jubilee Road , East Dean R.D., Gloucestershire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Raymond J Haile 12 Mar 1913 Male Unemployed Colliery Hewer Married 94 1
Elsie M Haile 09 Mar 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 94 2

and this is his marriage:
Year: 1936
Month: Apr
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: HAILE
Grooms_Forenames: Raymond James
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Plump Hill Mitcheldean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Haile
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Elias (deceased)
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: General labourer
Brides_Surname: DAUNTER
Brides_Forenames: Elsie May
Brides_Age: 26
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Jubille Rd Abenhall
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Daunter
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Walter
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: General labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Edith May Daunter
Witness_2: Cyril Alexander Haile
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: F M Green Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P1 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 126
Parish_Chapel: Abenhall

Death Registrations:
Name: Raymond James Haile
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1913
Registration Date: Jun 1997
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: C51
District and Subdistrict: 4831C
Entry Number: 296

Name: Elsie May Haile
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1910
Registration Date: Jan 1995
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: 32
District and Subdistrict: 4821
Entry Number: 110

Mike

Eliza Anne SMITH

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, November 11, 2017, 08:52 (2570 days ago) @ shepway

Family Search + Forest of Dean records

Hope Mansell, Hereford

Eliza Anne SMITH

birth: 28 April 1872
christening : 26 May 1872

parents: Daniel (occupation: Miner) & Eliza SMITH

residence: Homrough

Eliza Anne SMITH

by MPGriffiths @, Saturday, November 11, 2017, 11:06 (2570 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

1881 Census, Herefordshire
Hope Mansell


address: Twisting

SMITH

Daniel - 45 - Farm labourer - born Herefordshire, Little Birch
Eliza - 40 - born Monmouthshire, Tintern
William - 17 - Coal Miner, born Herefordshire, Walford
Julie - 14 - Scholar, born Glos. Lydbrook
Herbert - 11 - Scholar, born Glos. East Dean
Anne - 8 - Scholar born Herefordshire, Hope Mansel
Joseph - 6 - ditto
Caroline - 4
Charlotte - 1

baptisms on Forest of Dean records - starting with Frederick Joseph SMITH, 1860 - Bishopswood

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full transcript on Forest of Dean records of this possible marriage of parents:

Westbury on Severn :

29 May 1859

Daniel SMITH, of full age, batchelor, labourer, residence: Westbury
father: James SMITH, labourer

Eliza BROBYN, of full age, Spinster, residence: Westbury

father: William BROBYN, labourer

by banns

witnesses: mark of Charles BROBYN and Elizabeth PLAISTED

Eliza Anne SMITH

by Hurricane999, Saturday, November 11, 2017, 14:08 (2570 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thank you both very much for clearing this up.

Eliza Anne SMITH

by May @, Sunday, November 12, 2017, 00:43 (2569 days ago) @ Hurricane999

If you are looking for this place on a map, its a farm. The Twisling farm is about half way between Hope Mansell and Bailey Lane End (as the crow flies).

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