WILLIAMS in Monmouth and Forest of Dean (General)
Does any one have any information of any Williams born after the 1900s in the monmouth or forest of dean area. Mothers maiden name Leadbeater. This lady had 13 children, who were said to be born in Ruardean. Does anyone know any baptism records or any other information. The fathers name was George Christopher Williams, thanks
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by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, November 20, 2006, 07:11 (6579 days ago) @ donnalloyd52
Name: George Christopher Williams
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 314
on same page
Mary Ann Leadbeater
does this get us back to
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=4484#p4484
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I knew they lived in Ruardean hill as a married couple, you come up with Birmingham, I dont understand how they were married there if they lived in Ruardean after, all their children were born in Ruardean
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by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, November 20, 2006, 08:23 (6579 days ago) @ donnalloyd52
lets consider :-
The Leadbeter family is from Birmingham, which is why the marriage is there.
The Williams line is possibly from Newent (1879) .
Perhaps he was working in B'ham or she was working in the Forest ( in service ?) when they met.
Afterwards they set up home in Ruardean
just one explanation, but needs a lot more evidence to support it. You can order some certificates now and start to prove or dis prove. You can gather from family some more accurate names / year of birth for the children and then explore the BMD records to find them etc.
or wait til 2011/12 for the 1911 census to be released :-(
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Hi,
Thanks, its a possibility yes, but like you said I need proof of it and its difficult to get proof. I can't wait for the next Census to come out, that will prove alot to me, but it seems a long way off. I have this thought how people travelled in the 1900s, I would like to think of them travelling around for work like they do today but wasn't it more difficult back then for them to travel to different counties as such
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by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, November 20, 2006, 11:13 (6579 days ago) @ donnalloyd52
The Mop Fair and Mothering Sunday are an established English tradition...
The railways were well established at the turn of the century, so Ross to Birmingham was certainly "do-able". I have examples of a direct relative in service in London in 1901 and another direct relative in service just south of Birmingham again in 1901.
Both girls were sent away to earn. I'm sure if there had been employment in the Forest or Gloucester they would have been there:-), whilst their brothers were underground....
Winifred Foley in "A Child in the Forest" describes being sent to London in the 1920's
There are other sources available -i.e. newspapers, relatives (!) - sit down and write what you know or suspect - names dates etc and then try to get some records, the Birth certs will comfirm addresses, parents / maiden names. The Marriage cert will often confirm addresses and parents names. etc etc...
Members of this Board will help, just need a little more to go on before we can come up with some suggestions and that elusive body of evidence.
WILLIAMS and LEADBETTER in B'ham 1901
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, November 20, 2006, 12:15 (6579 days ago) @ slowhands
Looks like a George WILLIAMS 1879 working in Selly Oak B'ham in 1901
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=4484#p4967
WILLIAMS and LEADBETTER in B'ham 1901
I have just looked at the marriage certificate of Doris Maud Williams married in 1949 and it states on there that her father George Christopher Williams was a Colliery Surface Worker at that time and his address was lilac cottage, Ruardean Hill, Drybrook
Lilac Cottage
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 03:05 (6578 days ago) @ donnalloyd52
lilac cottage, Ruardean Hill, Drybrook
Feels like The Hollow end of Ruardean Hill..... so post code of GL17 9AP should be about right if you want to GOOGLE map or MULTIMAP, or even visit !
today there is a valid address of
Lilac Cottage, Ruardean Hill, Drybrook GL17 9AP
rough area on an old map
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
co-ords 363954,217065
Lilac Cottage
I have never been to this area, I would like to travel there one day to see what it is like, it looks very quiet on the map, have you ever been there, if so what is it like, what are the houses like?
Lilac Cottage
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 07:19 (6578 days ago) @ donnalloyd52
visited ? once or twice LOL !!!!
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Drybrook/Drybrook-and-Ruardean-Hill.htm
Lilac Cottage
by Barbara Lloyd , Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 08:03 (6578 days ago) @ donnalloyd52
The Forest of Dean is absolutely beautiful, I visited it in the Spring, and the Forest was very lush and green, currently living in the middle of the country with busy motorways, trains that do not come when they should, and local traffic jams, my few days in The Forest were perfect. and The Forest really is a Forest, not just a small collection of trees and scrub.!! and yet its industrial heritage is available for those who are interested.
If you come, try and visit the Dean Heritage Centre, The Pludds, also the local history section at Cinderford Library were exceptionally helpful, I managed to find my Great Grandfather's house, from minimal information.
The Sculpture Trail is worth a look. The names of places in the area are unique to the Forest.
I have got to come again, I only touched the surface of the area, roll on next Spring. I wish my G.Grandfather had been alive when I was little, I could have gone and stayed with him.
I am sure a lot more members of the Board could express it much better.
From one Lloyd to another.
Barbara Lloyd.