Archie L J HARPER, born abt 1895 Oldcroft (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Monday, November 05, 2018, 02:35 (480 days ago) @ slowhands

1901 Viney Hill
Albert E Harper abt 1873 Morley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Rose E Harper abt 1875 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Albert A Harper abt 1899 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Archie L J Harper abt 1895 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire

I cannot find Archie within this site's Parish Records, however using FreeBMD can find;

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1919
Harper Archie L J Hible Monmouth 11a 98
Hible Clarice Harper Monmouth 11a 98

Thanks to the prior thread we know he was born in Monmouth District abt 1895. This means we can find his Birth Record despite the Records having apparently mis-spelt his name;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Mar 1895
Harper Arche Leonard J Monmouth 11a 29

And also his death;
Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1972

Wortley is in Yorkshire, see

This is confirmed when we search for possible offspring and find these Harper/Hible Birth records;

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Mar 1922
Harper Albert D Hible Monmouth 11a 37

Births Dec 1923
HARPER Philip J Hible Monmouth 11a 27

Births Sep 1925
Harper Leonard Hible Monmouth 11a 35

Births Mar 1927
Harper Dorothy Hible Wortley 9c 602

Births Sep 1928
Harper Kenneth Hible Wortley 9c 538

Births Sep 1929
Harper Mavis Hible Wortley 9c 541

Births Mar 1931
Harper Deric A Hible Wortley 9c 521

Births Dec 1938
Harper Pamela J Hible Wortley 9c 407


Now we have the dates we can look for more info from the GlosBMD site;

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
HARPER Archie Leonard John JAMES 1895 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 51 500

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
HARPER Archie Leonard John HIBLE Clarice Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office 1919 29 43

This explains why his marriage isn't within the Church aka Parish Records within this FoD site.


FamilySearch gives;

1911 Census, West Dean, Monmouthshire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Albert Edwin Harper Head M 38 COAL MINER HEWER. West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Ellen Harper Wife F 36 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Archie Leonard John Harper Son M 16 COAL MINER HEWER. West Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Auston Harper Son M 13 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Ena Bessie Harper Daughter F 9 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Lillian Harper Daughter F 7 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harold Harper Son M 4 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Dorothy Harper Daughter F 2 West Dean, Gloucestershire


This site's PRs include his parents' marriage, etc;

Record_ID: 199200
Entry_Number: 201
Year: 1893
Month: May
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: HARPER
Grooms_Forenames: Albert Edwin
Grooms_Age: 19
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Slade
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: HARPER
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Engineer
Brides_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Forenames: Rose Ellen
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Servant
Brides_Residence: Oldcroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: The mark of James Henry James
Witness_2: Eliza James
Officiating_Minister: Edward S Smith
Event: Marriage
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 101
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex_Groom: H616
Soundex_Bride: J520

Record_ID: 367545
Entry_Number: 149
Year: 1923
Month: Jan
Day: 5
Surname: HARPER
Forenames: Albert Edwin
Residence: Oldcroft
Age_at_death: 50
Officiating_Minister: C R Williams Vicar
Event: Burial
Memoranda: R13 N49
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/18
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: H616

Record_ID: 368402
Year: 1956
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Surname: HARPER
Forenames: Rose Ellen
Residence: 7 Harold Rd Yorkley
Age_at_death: 81
Officiating_Minister: G Waddington vicar
Event: Burial
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/19
Page_No: 64
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: H616

This FoD site's PRs also include Marriage Records for at least seven of Archie's siblings, found while searching "father Albert Edwin Harper", all at Viney Hill between 1922 and 1937.


We also know Archie served during WW1.

Record_ID: 2202
Year: _
Surname: HARPER
Forename: Archie
Rank: Private
Regiment: _
Service_Number: _
Residence: Oldcroft
Notes_1: Enlisted 10_October_1914 _ _
Notes_2: _
Newspaper: _
Date_Published: _
Image: _
Soundex: H616


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