1880 James Harrington Manns - Born Lancester (General)
Whilst the marriage to Ruth Plumpton names the father as Charles it would appear James was born before his mother married. This is the marriage:
Marriages Dec 1880
Fisher Margaret Ellen Lancaster 8e 1057
MANNS Charles Lancaster 8e 1057
James is aged 11 in the 1891 Census so was probably born in the first half of 1880. There is a James Fisher born to a single mother in 1880:
FISHER, JAMES -
GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in LANCASTER Volume 08E Page 743
The following confirms the birth out of wedlock:
Transcript from familysearch.org:
Name: James Fisher
Residence Place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1880
Christening Date (Original): 02 MAY 1880
Christening Place: ST. MARY, LANCASTER, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1880
Mother's Name: Margaret Ellen Fisher
There is also an image on Find My Past and Margaret is described as a Machinist of 34 Penny Street.
The Military Records for James Harrington Manns suggest his place of birth is Morecambe - Is it possible that James Harrington Manns and James Fisher are not one and the same?
Mike
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