Thomas BOWERY ancestors, Dymock

Hi,

Looking for more information on parents/any siblings of my G-G-Grandfather Thomas Henry Bowery, b.11/4/1848 Dymock. There is a baptism transcription for him transcribed on this website (1880), which shows his parents first names as John and Elizabeth. Can't find them on the 1841/51 census at all. Anybody have any more info on them or anything else which might help? (Note baptism records have 2 x Thomas Henry Bowery entries - his son Thomas Henry Bowery my G-Grandfather baptised a year after him). There are some other Bowery's in the Dymock area around that time, but I cannot see the relationships.

It has been difficult to find out any information about Thomas snr. as he joined the army at some point, and married Anna Ramos (Spanish) in Gibraltar on 6/3/1876, (source IGI) returning to Dymock later that year and going on to have at least 9 children that I know of. A trip to London is in order to find his army records which may help, but thought I'd ask here in the meantime.

Thanks,
Richard

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Starting to work backwards towards 1851 (!)
< Border village families can be a problem to trace, already we can see Taynton and Dymock given as birth place, so a 5 mile radius of Newent is the "trawl"... will update as more found >

Did he take the Bowery surname later in life ?
Could he be registered as a Davis, Jones, Smith etc in 1848 ?

1911
BOWERY HANNAH F 1858 53 Newent Gloucestershire - born Spain
BOWERY ALBERT M 1900 11 Newent Gloucestershire
BOWERY ISABEL F 1893 18 Newent Gloucestershire

1901
Thomas H Bowery abt 1849 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Head Taynton Gloucestershire
Hannah Bowery abt 1856 Spain Wife Taynton Gloucestershire
Albert Bowery abt 1900 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire
Delores Bowery abt 1894 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire
Edith Bowery abt 1883 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire
Ernest Bowery abt 1891 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire
Percival Bowery abt 1887 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire

1891
Thomas Bowery abt 1848 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Newent Gloucestershire
Ana Bowery abt 1852 Spain Wife Newent Gloucestershire
Bowery abt 1891 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Newent Gloucestershire
Edith E Bowery abt 1883 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newent Gloucestershire
George Bowery abt 1885 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Newent Gloucestershire
Mary A Bowery abt 1879 Oxenhall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newent Gloucestershire
Percival J Bowery abt 1888 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Son Newent Gloucestershire
Tom Bowery abt 1881 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son Newent Gloucestershire

1881

Name: Thomas Edward Bowry
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 275

Name: Mary Ann Bowery
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 287

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Thanks. I've been using the same census info so far. The different places of birth confused me at first but now I think I see what has happened. Thomas Bowery snr (b.1848) was, I believe, born in Dymock. As was his first son Thomas Henry Jnr (b. 1881, Farrs, Dymock), and his two closest siblings Louisa Bowery b.1876, Edith Emily Bowery b.1883, Farrs Dymock. Not sure about the 'Farrs', I guess that was the name of a residence. I've googled it and looked at the online maps, but couldn't find anything to indicate where exactly this might be in the Dymock area.

I think the 1901 census indicating Taynton as Thomas Bowery Snr's place of birth is incorrect, it was just where they were living at that time (Specifically: Shuard's Cottage, Glasshouse, Taynton) ? It seems they moved from Dymock to Taynton where Thomas Snr. eventually died (Source: Death Certificate). This would explain why the later siblings were born in Taynton. One of my deceased relatives had told stories of going from Parkend to Dymock via Taynton to visit relatives (in a horse and cart !), so this perhaps backs this up also.

Hadn't thought of whether he (Thomas Snr) took the name Bowery in later life, something to look into, I have no info on that for now. But he certainly was using the Bowery name when he married in 1876. A he was a soldier, and by that time almost 28 years of age, I would guess he had been using it for a while if not his birth name. Looks like his army record will be useful (If he served as Thomas Bowery !) Therefore he is likely not on the 1871 census with other family if he was in the army at the time.

Possibly related - there was an article published in the Glos. Citizen about his wife which I am trying to trace via the Glos. archives. They did a piece on her as it was unusual for a Spanish woman to be in those parts at the time, and caused a bit of a stir. If I do get hold of this it might help explain the movements. Note that her name varies between Anna, Ana, Hannah on the census - her actual name was Anna. Another example of the census taker writing what they thought they had heard perhaps ?

Richard

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I driven by Farrs so many times on the M50 motorway ( without knowing !)
near Castletump north of Newent
a mile south of Dymock

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
co ords 370408,229270

Location is at 370495E 229245N (N51:57:39 W2:25:51)
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=370495&Y=229245&A=Y&Z=3

Farrs Four Oaks Newent GL18 1LU

There seems to be a missing part to Ancestry's 1881

RG11/2528 /1 seems to start at Page 9 which is Four Oaks
I'm sure that Farrs would be enumerated on Page 7 or page 8 (!)

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Thanks again, slowhands.

I was intending to have a look around Dymock in the near future, as I am coming up that way to attend a service for one of my relatives who died this year, and was originally from Parkend (and is a grandson of the Thomas Bowery I am finding out more about). So now I know exactly where to go, which will be a good way to end a day of remembrance.

Can certainly now see more clearly their movement from Farrs to Taynton.

Richard

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Year: 1879
Month: Mar
Day: 16
Parents Surname: BOWERY
Child Forenames: Mary Ann
Father's Forenames: Thomas
Mother's Forenames: Hannah
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Oxenhall
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating Minister: T P Little Vicar
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P241 IN 1/6
Page No: 63
Parish_Chapel: Oxenhall

Thomas Bowery and Anna Bowery were most likely married in Gibrlatar 6th March 1876 when Thomas was serving in the 28th regiment of foot

Anna Ramos b 1856 Casares, Spain.
Her father is given as Peter Ramos b 1830 and her Mother Elizabeth Mena

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There seem to be some parallels with names etc and locations to ignore this branch.
BALLINGER , MANNS

1901
Edith Bowery abt 1880 Redmarley, Gloucestershire, England Servant Bristol Gloucestershire

1901
George Bowery abt 1881 Oxenhall, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Chelsea London

1901
Florence B Bowey abt 1884 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Servant Bristol Gloucestershire

Year: 1892
Month: Jun
Day: 12
Surname: BOWERY
Forenames: Jabez
Residence: Hillend Green Dymock
Age_at_death: 33
Officiating_Minister: Reginald Horton vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/31
Page_No: 77
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

1891
David Bowery abt 1859 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Dymock Gloucestershire
Mariah Bowery abt 1854 Redmarley, Worcestershire, England Wife Dymock Gloucestershire
Edith Bowery abt 1880 Redmarley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dymock Gloucestershire
Florence B Bowery abt 1884 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Dymock Gloucestershire
George E Bowery abt 1881 Oxenhall, Gloucestershire, England Son Dymock Gloucestershire

1881
Jabez Bowery abt 1856 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Oxenhall Gloucestershire
Maria Bowery abt 1859 Redmarley, Worcestershire, England Wife Oxenhall Gloucestershire
Hadah Bowery abt 1880 Redmarley, Worcestershire, England Daughter Oxenhall Gloucestershire
George E. Bowery Oxenhall, Gloucestershire, England Son Oxenhall Gloucestershire

Name: Maria Merrick
Name: Jabez Bowery
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 451

Year: 1878
Month: Oct
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: BOWERY
Grooms_Forenames: Jabez
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Dymock
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Boery
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: MERRICK
Brides_Forenames: Maria
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Dymock
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Merrick
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: William Manns
Witness_2: Mark of Emily Manns
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: A Haulier Tracy
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Surname and forename of groom confirmed from Marriage Register volume 6a page 451
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/27
Page_Number: 196
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

1871 [Bowery transcribed as Baney]
Joseph Manns abt 1821 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Dymock Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Manns abt 1823 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Dymock Gloucestershire
Charles Manns abt 1858 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son Dymock Gloucestershire
Caroline Baney abt 1860 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter Dymock Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Baney abt 1858 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter Dymock Gloucestershire
Julius Baney abt 1855 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Stepson Dymock Gloucestershire
Rom Baney abt 1853 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter Dymock Gloucestershire
Thomas Baney abt 1868 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Dymock Gloucestershire

Year: 1871
Month: Feb
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: MANNS
Grooms_Forenames: Joseph
Grooms_Age: Full
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Fars Farm Dymock
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Manns
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: BALLINGER
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth Bowery
Brides_Age: Full
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Fars Farm Dymock
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Bowery
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Thomas Goode
Witness_2: Goseph Goode
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W C S Newbolt
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/27
Page_Number: 166
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

1861 Longhope Gloucestershire
John Ballenger abt 1823 Upton St Leonards, Gloucestershire, England Head
Elizabeth Bowry abt 1830 Lea Bailey, Herefordshire, England Servant
Caroline Bowry abt 1860 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Elizabeth Bowry abt 1858 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Emily Bowry abt 1849 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Jabez Bowry abt 1856 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son
Rose Bowry abt 1853 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter

1861 Dymock Gloucestershire
Joseph Manns abt 1821 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head
Charles Manns abt 1859 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son
William Manns abt 1849 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son

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Name: Thomas Bowery
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 72
DISTRICT: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 316

1901
Tom Bowery abt 1832 Ross, Herefordshire, England Head Ross Herefordshire
Mary Ann Bowery abt 1837 Ross, Herefordshire, England Wife Ross Herefordshire
Emily Bowery abt 1870 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross Herefordshire

1891
Thomas Bowrez abt 1832 Weston, Herefordshire, England Head Ross Herefordshire
Mary A Bowrez abt 1837 Ross, Herefordshire, England Wife Ross Herefordshire
Charles H Bowrez abt 1866 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross Herefordshire
Emily M Bowrez abt 1870 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross Herefordshire
Tom Clarks abt 1867 Ross, Herefordshire, England Lodger Ross Herefordshire

1881
Thomas Bowrey abt 1836 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Ross Herefordshire
Mary A. Bowrey abt 1838 Upton Bishop, Hereford, England Wife Ross Herefordshire
Emily Bowrey abt 1870 Ross, Hereford, England Daughter Ross Herefordshire
Henry C. Bowrey abt 1866 Ross, Hereford, England Son Ross Herefordshire
William Bowrey . abt 1862 Ross, Hereford, England Son Ross Herefordshire

1871
Thomas Bowery abt 1833 Weston Under Penyard, Herefordshire, England Head Ross Herefordshire
Mary Ann Bowery abt 1837 Linton, Herefordshire, England Wife Ross Herefordshire
Emely Bowery abt 1870 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross Herefordshire
Henry Charles Bowery abt 1865 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross Herefordshire
Sarah Ann Bowery abt 1860 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross Herefordshire
William K Bowery abt 1862 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ross Herefordshire

1861
Thomas Bowrey abt 1834 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Ross Herefordshire
Mary Ann Bowrey abt 1837 Linton, Herefordshire, England Wife Ross Herefordshire
Sarah Ann Bowrey abt 1860 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ross Herefordshire

Name: Sarah Ann Bow* ?
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
DISTRICT: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 6a
Page: 397

1851
Thomas Bowry abt 1833 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Servant Linton Herefordshire

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1861
John Ballinger abt 1847 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Servant Barton St Mary Gloucestershire

Name: Jabez Bowrey
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 184

1851 Longhope Gloucestershire
John Ballinger abt 1824 Cranham, Gloucestershire, England Head
Elizabeth Bowry abt 1830 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Not Belate
John Ballinger Bowrey abt 1848 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son
Emely Bowrey abt 1849 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Julia Bowrey abt 1850 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Thomas Tlaigstead [PLAYSTEAD ?] abt 1790 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Lodger
William Tlaigstead abt 1834 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Lodger

1851 Dymock Gloucestershire
Joseph Manns abt 1822 Kempley, Gloucestershire, England Head
Ann Manns abt 1825 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Wife
William Manns abt 1849 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son

1851
Thomas Bowry abt 1833 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Servant Linton Herefordshire

1841 Cliffords Mesne / Boulsden Newent Gloucestershire
John Plaisters abt 1761 Gloucestershire,
Thos Plaisters abt 1801 Gloucestershire,
Mary Bowrey abt 1806 Gloucestershire,
Caroline Bowrey abt 1838 Gloucestershire,
Charlotte Bowrey abt 1829 Gloucestershire,
Eliza Bowrey abt 1836 Gloucestershire,
Elizabeth Bowrey abt 1827
Thos Bowrey abt 1831 Gloucestershire,
William Bowrey abt 1833 Gloucestershire,

1841 Kempley Green Gloucestershire
George Man abt 1821 Gloucestershire,
Joseph Mans abt 1821 Gloucestershire

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