Daughters of Benjamin Fox and Emma Hawkins (General)
by foxinnz, Monday, April 29, 2019, 08:41 (2034 days ago)
Hello from New Zealand. I am seeking information of the daughters of Benjamin Fox (1844 -1917) and his wife Emma Hawkins (1846 - 1916).
I believe their daughters were:
1.Annie born about 1872 who married Stephen Baker and had children Stephen Ernest Baker, and Aubrey Harold Baker
2.Emily born about 1874 who married Fredrick Pearce Trapnell and had Kenneth Pearce Trapnell and Elfrida Trapnell.
3. Bessie born about 1883 who may have married John Foot and had a son Claude Foot
4. Rose Fox born about 1886.
I have some information on their eldest son Benjamin William Fox (1869) and am the granddaughter of their second son Tom born 1877.
I would love to hear from anyone who could help me discover more.
Many thanks
Sarah
Rose Shaul nee Fox
by shepway , Monday, April 29, 2019, 12:51 (2034 days ago) @ foxinnz
Rose was with her sister and family in 1901:
1901 Census
Berkley Cottages Brentry, 3, Henbury, Barton Regis, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Stephen Baker Head Married Male 30 1871 Gardener Meare, Somerset, England
Anne Baker Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
Stephen Ernest Baker Son Single Male 5 1896 - Gloucestershire, England
Rose Fox Visitor Single Female 15 1886 - Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
She married in 1905
Marriages Sep 1905
FOX Rose Bath 5c 1118
Shaul William James Bath 5c 1118
and this is the 1911 Census entry:
New Road Calne Wiltshire, Calne Within, Wiltshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Annie Elizabeth Watkins Head Married Female 51 1860 Private Means Wilts Melksham
William Jas Shaul Son Married Male 27 1884 Butcher's Clerk Hampshire Portsmouth
Rose Shaul Wife Married Female 26 1885 - Gloucester Coleford
Jack Shaul Son - Male 13 1898 School Somerset Bath
Ivy Shaul Daughter - Female 5 1906 School Somerset Bath
She appears in the 1939 Register:
17 & 18 Milsom Street , Bath C.B., Somerset, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Rose Shaul 10 Jun 1885 Female Housekeeper Business House Knitwear Widowed 66 7
Lilian R Smith 09 Feb 1895 Female Gown Glitter Single 66 1
Violet B Bray (Lake) 30 Jun 1918 Female House Paid Single 66 2
Amy Jones 21 Dec 1884 Female Millinery Buyer Single 66 3
Ethel M Birch 12 Feb 1880 Female Costumier Single 66 4
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Agnes M Pepper 24 Nov 1884 Female Buyer Saleswoman Single 66 6
and died in 1984:
Name: Rose Shaul
Death Age: 99
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1885
Registration Date: Sep 1984
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 22
Page: 208
Mike
Daughters of Benjamin Fox and Emma Hawkins
by MPGriffiths , Monday, April 29, 2019, 15:11 (2034 days ago) @ foxinnz
Freedom
Marriage - Bristol District
September Qtr 1910
FOOT John S
FOX Bessie
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Birth: Bristol Sept Qtr 1911
FOOT Claude D - mother's maiden name: FOX
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1911 Census, Brentry Hill
Passage Road
Westbury on Trym
Bristol
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John FOOT - Head age 28 - married under 1 year - children none : Shop, Drapery Warehouse Assistant (Drapers)
born Buckland Newton, Dorset
Bessie FOOT - wife - 26 born Coleford, Glos
Ernest BAKER - nephew - 16 single, Gardener Domestic born Brentry, Glos
Daughters of Benjamin Fox and Emma Hawkins
by MPGriffiths , Monday, April 29, 2019, 15:23 (2034 days ago) @ MPGriffiths
1939 England and Wales Register for John S FOOT
Herefordshire, Bromyard
1 Broad Street
FOOT John S - married - birth date: 9 July 1882 - Draper
FOOT Constance - married - birth date 3 November 1908 - Unpaid Domestic Duties
This record is offically closed
FOOT John L - birth date 28 October 1934 - at school
On Freebdm - John L FOOT - Bromyard District 1834 - mother's maiden name: LUCAS
John S FOOT married Constance LUCAS - A/M/J Qtr 1932 Thornbury District
On the 1939 Register for Thornbury there is
FOOT Claude D - male married born 16 July 1911 - Aux Air Force No 11 Bat
then: This record is offically closed
and next various FOX listed
Claude - born 29 Dece 1882
Emily - 11 July 1892
then 3/4 written in red ink
Daughters of Benjamin Fox and Emma Hawkins
by Mike Pinchin , Bedford, England, Monday, April 29, 2019, 22:47 (2034 days ago) @ foxinnz
Frederick Pearce TRAPNELL seems to have had an ill-fated business venture in Bristol:-
The Edinburgh Gazette
Publication date: 23 July 1901
Issue: 11323
Page: 825
BANKRUPTS FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE
Frederick Pearce Trapnell, care of Mrs. Malpass, of St.Brannocks Road, Ilfracombe, in the county of Devon, and lately carrying on business at Somerset House, Clifton, in the city and county of Bristol, licensed victualler.
And then some evidence of an early rift:-
BNA Gloucestershire Chronicle - Saturday 10 May 1902
HUSBAND AND WIFE.
At Coleford Petty Sessions on Wednesday, Frederick P. Trapnell, of Ilfracombe, a gentleman formerly of independent means, was summoned by Emily Trapnell, his wife, now residing with her parents at Coleford, Forest of Dean, for a separation order and for maintenance. Mr. H. Williams was for the complainant, whilst Mr G. B. Taylor was for defendant, who did not appear. The parties were married only the end of 1900, at Clifton, at which time the defendant, who had no occupation, possessed an income of £2OO a year. Defendant then took the Somerset House Hotel, Clifton, and at the end of four months disposed of it for £1 700, making a clear profit of £3OO. They then went to live at No. 4, Bigglestone Park, Ilfracombe, the residence of defendant’s mother, who was exceedingly unkind to complainant, who was advised to go away for a change. Having determined to visit, her mother in the Forest, defendant gave her £2, and had sent £1 since; but that was all complainant had received from him. He declined to provide a home for her apart from his mother. Having resolved to return, defendant was asked to send the railway fare; but declined to do so, and refused to allow her to return. In cross-examination, complainant said she was not aware that the money with which the hotel was purchased was borrowed. Defendant was ordered to pay £1 a week towards his wife’s maintenance.
By that time they must have had Elfrida:-
Ancestry:-
Name: Elfrida Harriette Trapnell
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Barnstaple [included Ilfracombe]
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 404
However, the rift must have been healed at some stage:-
Ancestry:-
Name: Frederick Kenneth Pearce Trapnell
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1907
Baptism Place: Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Coleford
Father: Frederick Pearce Trapnell
Mother: Emily Trapnell
BNA Gloucestershire Echo - Wednesday 18 June 1902
COLEFORD
Monday- Before Messrs. T. T. Taylor and S. Thomas
HUSBAND AND WIFE.— Frederick P. Trapnell, a gentleman, of Ilfracombe, was brought up in custody charged with being in arrears of a maintenance order to the extent of £7, due to his wife, Emily Trapnell.—Prisoner admitted his responsibility but said he had no money, as he was solely dependent upon his mother, who was a woman of means and lived in house worth £1,500. He was only 23 years of age, and had no occupation. He had nothing to say against his wife.—Mr. H. Williams, solicitor, Coleford, appeared for the prosecutrix, and asked the Bench to convict prisoner as he had disregarded the previous order.— Prisoner was sentenced to one month’s hard labour in default of payment of the amount due.—Eventually the money was forthcoming, and prisoner was released from custody and joined his wife.
Emily Fox and her Trapnell family => California c1911
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, April 29, 2019, 23:37 (2034 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin
The Trapnel family emigrated to the USA abt 1911.
FamilySearch has several records, including images of the actual Census forms and Passenger Lists. Please search out these images as they often contain far more info than the following transcripts.
Some examples are;
Emily F. Trapnell
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Name Emily F. Trapnell
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 17 Feb 1911
Event Place Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Gender Female
Age 36
Marital Status Married
Nationality England, English
Birth Year 1875
Departure Port Liverpool
Ship Name Mauretania
Additional Name J S Trapnell
Departure Contact Name Relationship Brother-In-Law
Arrival Contact Name Ed M Trapnell
Arrival Contact Name Relationship Brother-In-Law
Page Number 135
Affiliate Line Number 0014
Husband Frederick and both children are also on the list. Apparently Frederick's brother Ed M Trapnell is already in the USA. See
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T3-13LM-J?i=705&cc=1368704
It's interesting to see they travelled on RMS Mauretania, the first of Cunard's "super liners" and a very well-known and popular ship. Entering service only a couple of years before the Trapnell's voyage, she soon gained the Blue Riband for the fastest trans-Atlantic crossing. I wonder if sailing on this prestigious Cunard ship shows the Trapnell's to be fairly well-off people ?. Mauretania's long career included being a troopship at Gallipoli during WW1, filling the void left by her sister-ship Lusitania after her infamous sinking by U Boat in 1915 which in many ways led to the USA entering WW1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Mauretania_(1906)
1910 U.S. Census,
Los Angeles Assembly District 70, Los Angeles, California, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Edward Mc Trapnell Head M 28 England
Louise E Trapnell Wife F 27 Germany
Edward F Trapnell Son M 2 California
Anna Trapnell Daughter F 1 California
Frederick P Trapnell Brother M 30 England
(One wonders where Emily & children are ?)
Frederick P. Trapnell
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Name Frederick P. Trapnell
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 08 Mar 1912
Event Place Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place Los Angeles USA
Gender Male
Age 33
Marital Status Married
Nationality Great Britain, English
Birth Year 1879
Departure Port Liverpool
Ship Name Mauretania
Additional Name Mr T D Sebley
Departure Contact Name Relationship Friend
Arrival Contact Name Relationship Wife & Fa???
Page Number 56
Affiliate Line Number 0013
(Frederick appears to be without his family on this crossing.)
1920 U.S. Census,
Fresno, Fresno, California, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Emily Trapnell Head F Widowed. 41 England
Elfrida Trapnell Daughter F 17 England
Kenneth Trapnell Son M 13 England
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AEM...
I cannot find Frederick's Death record, either in UK or USA.
1930 U.S. Census,
Los Angeles (Districts 0251-0500), Los Angeles, California, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Emily Trapnell Head Widowed. F 53 England
Elfreda Trapnell Daughter F 24 England
Kenneth Trapnell
New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909
Name Kenneth Trapnell
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1933
Event Place New York, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 27
Birth Year (Estimated) 1906
Birthplace England
Ship Name Berengaria, sailing from Southampton 2nd September 1933.
Kenneth describes himself as a Chemist, born Coleford, England.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5DP-XBY?i=434&cc=1923888
Emily Trapnell
California, Southern District Court (Central) Naturalization Index
Name Emily Trapnell
Event Date 1939
Event Place Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States
Age 66
Birth Year (Estimated) 1873
Kenneth Pearce Trapnell
California, Southern District Court (Central) Naturalization Index
Name Kenneth Pearce Trapnell
Event Date 1936
Event Place Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States
1940 U.S. Census,
Councilmanic District 10, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Township, Los Angeles, California, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Alfrida Trapnell Head F 30 England
Emily Trapnell Mother F 64 England
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&localeSubcountryName=Ca...
1940 U.S. Census,
Councilmanic District 1, Los Angeles, Los Angeles Township, Los Angeles, California, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Kenneth Trapnell Head M 33 England
Irma Trapnell Wife F 32 California
June Trapnell Daughter F 15 California
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R6S-2RN?i=13&cc=1488411
Name Emily Fox Trapnell
Maiden Name Fox
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1948
Event Place Glendale, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Photograph Included N
Birth Date 04 Sep 1874
Death Date 31 Dec 1948
Affiliate Record Identifier 85535248
Cemetery Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Glendale)
Kenneth P Trapnell
California Death Index
Name Kenneth P Trapnell
Event Type Death
Event Date 22 Jun 1970
Event Place Shasta, California, United States
Birth Date 23 Jul 1906
Birthplace England
Gender Male
And so on, including more sea voyages.
It appears that son Kenneth returned to the UK alone, perhaps for his studies to become a chemist, but eventually settled in California too. Here are just some of those results.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aem...
Emily Fox Trapnell & children => New Zealand too c1909 ?
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 16:19 (2033 days ago) @ Jefff
While searching Kenneth Trapnell I found another record which MAY help explain how this thread's originator Sarah is in New Zealand.
Kenneth Trapnell
New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists
Name Kenneth Trapnell
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 03 Nov 1909
Event Place Wellington (other ports also listed), New Zealand
Gender Male
Nationality England
Shipping Company Shaw, Savill & Albion Co Ltd
Departure Place London
Ship Name Ionic
Arrival Place Wellington (other ports also listed)
This person is definitely "our" Kenneth, as the passenger list image has him with "housewife" Emily and sister Elfrida, but no sign of Frederick. It shows the Ionic left London bound for New York USA, and that the family were contracted to "land" at Wellington, New Zealand, as indeed were most of the other passengers (except for one landing at Cape Town). I wonder if this means the ship's route was effectively around the world; London - Cape Town S.A. - New Zealand - then across the Pacific to New York via the Panama Canal ??
So what were Emily Trapnell's intentions as to their final destination ?? Had she left Frederick ?.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTSZ-78?cc=1609792
I should have read this earlier haha;
The SS Ionic was launched at Harland and Wolff (of Titanic fame) in Belfast in 1902. She was originally built to carry passengers and refrigerated meat between the United Kingdom and New Zealand, and began her maiden voyage from London to Wellington via Cape Town on 16 January 1903. Ionic was the first ship on the New Zealand route to be fitted with a Marconi wireless set.
taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Ionic_(1902)
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I've tried to find evidence that Frederick Trapnell visited New Zealand at some point, but none found yet.
Earlier we noted Frederick's contact in the USA was his brother Ed M Trapnell.
A quick search of the UK Census finds this record from North Bristol which clarifies. No doubt there are more records but I suspect Sarah already has these;
1891 Hazleton Rd, Horfield, Barton Regis, Gloucestershire
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Frederick M W Malpas Head M 32 Professor Of Music. Lincolnshire, England
Harriette Malpas Wife F 45 Wiltshire, England
Frederick P Trapnell Stepson M 12 Scholar. Gloucestershire, England
Joseph S Trapnell Stepson M 10 Gloucestershire, England
Edward Mc Lean Trapnell Stepson M 9 Gloucestershire, England
Francis H M Stephens Stepdaughter F 18 Ireland
Florence Spencer Niece F 13 Surrey, England
Alice K Sullivan Servant F 13 Bristol, England
Thomas Foley Adopted Son M 13 England
I'm sure Sarah already has these records, but for completeness here's another that popped-up, which helpfully gives Frederick's father's name;
Name Frederick Pearce Trapnell
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 08 Dec 1900
Event Place Clifton, Christchurch, Gloucestershire, England
Spouse's Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Father's Name Joseph Pearce Trapnell
Spouse's Name Emily Fox
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Father's Name Benjamin Fox
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FamilySearch etc will undoubtedly have records of Edward's own emigration to the USA.
Emily Fox and her Trapnell family => California (cont)
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 23:33 (2033 days ago) @ Jefff
FamilySearch is proving tricky when searching U.S. records for the Trapnell family, when I search for one particular member I seem to get more new hits for another one, hits that didn't appear when I searched for that individual; ah well, it's free so no complaints !
From California, County Marriages
Name Kenneth P Trapnell
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 19 Nov 1937
Event Place Los Angeles, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 31
Birth Year (Estimated) 1906
Father's Name Fredrick Trapnell
Mother's Name Emily Fox
Spouse's Name Irma M Goodwill
Spouse's Age 30
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1907
Spouse's Father's Name Charles Hayes
Spouse's Mother's Name Gladys Windsor
for more info see https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93H-S97T-D?i=2530&cc=1804002
Irma Goodwill
mentioned in the record of Clarence E Goodwill and Irma Goodwill
Name Clarence E Goodwill
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 06 Apr 1936
Event Place Los Angeles, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 35
Birth Year (Estimated) 1901
Father's Name Oliver M Goodwill
Mother's Name Edith Abel
Spouse's Name Irma Goodwill
Spouse's Age 28
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1908
Spouse's Father's Name Charles Hayes
Spouse's Mother's Name Gladys Windsor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-893H-794H-F?i=2387&cc=1804002
Irma May Trapnell
California Death Index
Name Irma May Trapnell
Event Type Death
Event Date 10 May 1995
Event Place Sacramento, California, United States
Birth Date 28 Oct 1906
Birthplace California
Gender Female
Father's Name Hayes
Mother's Name Windsor
Citing this Record"California Death Index, 1940-1997," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VP6S-DLY : 26 November 2014)
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From California, County Marriages
Name Paul Serra
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 21 Dec 1948
Event Place Los Angeles, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 52
Birth Year (Estimated) 1896
Father's Name Joseph Serra
Mother's Name Mary Guell
Spouse's Name Elfrida Trapnell
Spouse's Age 39
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1909
Spouse's Father's Name Fredrick Trapnell
Spouse's Mother's Name Emily Fox
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93H-VR58?i=2385&cc=1804002
From California, County Birth and Death Records
Name Pablo G Serra
Event Type Death
Event Date 14 Sep 1963
Event Place Los Angeles, California, United States
Event Place Los Angeles, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 65
Birth Year (Estimated) 1898
Father's Name Guill Serra
Spouse's Name Elfrida Sera
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89SX-3GDD?i=272&cc=2001287
Elfrida H Serra
mentioned in the record of Claude O Overby and Elfrida H Serra
Name Elfrida H Serra
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 19 Aug 1966
Event Place Los Angeles City, California
Gender Female
Age 59
Birth Year (Estimated) 1907
Spouse's Name Claude O Overby
Spouse's Age 61
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1905
Citing this Record"California Marriage Index, 1960-1985," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V62W-2QK : 27 November 2014)
Emily Fox and her Trapnell family => California (cont)
by foxinnz, Thursday, May 02, 2019, 08:43 (2031 days ago) @ Jefff
Thanks so much everyone for all this information.
I will spend sometime on our weekend trying to digest it all.
So wonderful to have so much help.
Very sincerely
Sarah