Greyhound Inn, Mitcheldean

My Great-Grandmother Mary Ann Meek (b1847) was a servant at the Greyhound Inn, High Street, Mitcheldean in 1871 census. It was run by Thomas & Emma Trotter ( nee Emma Smith ).

Emma died in July 1871 leaving Thomas with 5 children.

Thomas married to Mary Ann Meek in Jan 1874, and they had 2 children.

Thomas died in Apr 1876 and Mary Ann married Henry Palmer in May 1877.

Mary Ann & Henry moved to Rhondda Valley, Glamorgan, South Wales

Emma & Thomas's 5 children were left in Gloucestershire some with the Smith family.

1) Where did the Trotter family go

2) anyone have a photo of the Greyhound Inn

Regards

David

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1881 England Census

Elizabeth A. Smith abt 1858 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Rudford Gloucestershire
Hester Smith abt 1835 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Wife Rudford Gloucestershire
John Smith abt 1832 Berkley, Gloucestershire, England Head Rudford Gloucestershire
Flora Trotter abt 1869 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Niece Rudford Gloucestershire
John L. Warner abt 1871 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Rudford Gloucestershire
Dennis G. Glover abt 1869 Tibberton, Gloucestershire, England Rudford Gloucestershire

1891 England Census

Elizabeth A Smith abt 1859 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newent Gloucestershire
Hester Smith abt 1835 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newent Gloucestershire
John Smith abt 1842 Berkley, Gloucestershire, England Head Newent Gloucestershire
Flora Trotter abt 1870 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Niece Newent Gloucestershire
John S Warner abt 1871 Awre Nephew Newent Gloucestershire
John Griffiths abt 1855 Herefordshire, England Servant Newent Gloucestershire

1901 England Census
Anne Anson abt 1852 Potter Hanworth, Lincolnshire, England Sister Marcham Berkshire
Arthur Henry Anson abt 1860 Catton Hall Burton At Trant Head Marcham Berkshire
Lucy Fredericka Anson abt 1856 Potter Hanworth, Lincolnshire, England Sister Marcham Berkshire
Elizabeth Fox abt 1830 Sarsley, Gloucestershire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Frederick Thomas Hall abt 1886 Eastleach, Gloucestershire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Laura Louisa Hawkins abt 1878 Adderbury, Oxfordshire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Flora Trotter abt 1870 Micheldever, Gloucestershire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Violet Elizabeth Underwood abt 1882 Faringdon, Berkshire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Richard Vickers abt 1875 Hoo, Shropshire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Elizabeth Woolley abt 1858 Cheshire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire
Mary Anne Young abt 1876 Sudbury, Derbyshire, England Servant Marcham Berkshire

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1881 England Census

Here we have Kate and Thomas staying with their Uncle and Aunt

Agnes Mary Trotter abt 1876 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Fanny Trotter abt 1873 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
John Birt Trotter abt 1833 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Kate Trotter abt 1866 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Niece Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Martha Trotter abt 1871 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Mary Eliza Trotter abt 1844 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Sarah Mabel Trotter abt 1878 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Susan Trotter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Tom Trotter abt 1863 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Walter Rogers Hammond abt 1862 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Mitcheldean Gloucestershire

I've come across 2 Kate Trotters one born in 1866 and one born in 1867, the 1881 Census I've posted should be the right one as she is with her brother Tom. There is nothing to verify this is 'your' Kate on the 1891 so perhaps some care should be taken at the moment that she is the correct one.

1891 England Census

Louise E Bell abt 1841 Taunton, Somerset, England Head Kensington London
Lydia R Knight abt 1851 Clerkenwell, London, England Servant Kensington London
Kate Trotter abt 1867 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Kensington London
Esther E Testi abt 1866 Cripplegate, London, England Servant Kensington London

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England and Wales Free BMD - Death Index
Name: Charles Hardy Trotter
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 1
DISTRICT: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 160

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Hi,

Thanks for your reply, Is here any Trotter still in F-O-D I wonder ?

David

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If you type in www.thephonebook.bt.com then type in Trotter under residentail numbers something may be revealed!

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[From a message sent to me by Ian Thomas]

Greyhound Inn, High Street
A newspaper report dated February 1895 says that 'the town brass band held their annual supper at the Greyhound Inn on Monday night when about 45 sat down to an excellent spread served by host and hostess Sutton.’

Owner in 1891: Francis Wintle, Forest Brewery, Mitcheldean
Rateable value in 1891: £16.0s.0d.
Type of licence in 1891: Alehouse
Owner in 1903: Francis Wintle, Forest Brewery, Mitcheldean
Rateable value in 1903: £20.0s.0d.
Type of licence in 1903: Alehouse
Closing time in 1903: 10pm
Present status:

Landlords:
1876 William Virgo
1885,1891,1903,1906 Phineas Hatton
1919 George Henry Green
1927,1939 Merrick Phelps

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Merrick Phelps was followed by Licencees Felix Josiah Wright and his wife Elizabeth. Thomas Timms took over 1943 approx. I think he was the last Landlord before it closed. The Greyhound was where the Post Office is now.

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Would anyone happen to know if this was the same Thomas Timms who was born 1899 East Dean? He was the son of Thomas snr and Eliza Morse. I only ask because I have mislaid him!

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I have a suspicion it is the Thomas who became the landlord .....

Year: 1873
Month: Dec
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: TIMS
Child_Forenames: Thomas William
Fathers_Forenames: Timothy
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruspidge Gloucestershire
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: A[rthur] H[enry] Goodenough [?]
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [Baptised at] B[ible] C[hristian] Chapel Ruspidge
Notes: Duplicate entry numbers as on page 84
Register_Reference: D2598 5/4
Page_Number: 98
Parish_Chapel: Forest of Dean Bible Christian Circuit

Year: 1895
Month: Dec
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: TIMMS
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas William
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Cinderford
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Timms
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Philip
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: MORSE
Brides_Forenames: Eliza Ann
Brides_Age: 25
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Morse
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Mark of Joseph Morse
Witness_2: Bessie Morse
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Lynes Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 14
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Johns

Name: Thomas Charles Tims
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 231

Name: Elsie May Tims
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 301

1901
Thomas Timms abt 1874 Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Timms abt 1871 Blakeney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Baby Timms abt 1901 Ruspidge, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1911
TIMS THOMAS M 1874 37 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS ELIZA F 1871 40 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS M 1899 12 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS ALBERT M 1904 7 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS CHARLEY M 1909 2 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS ELIZA F 1897 14 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS ELSIE F 1901 10 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TIMS MINNIE F 1906 5 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire

Then possibly :-

Name: Thomas C Timms
Spouse : Frances N Cole
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1925
Registration district: Gloucester
Registration county (inferred): Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 749

Name: Thomas C Timms
Death Registration Month/Year: 1957
Age at death (estimated): 58
Registration district: Gloucester Rural
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 493

Possible children :-

Name: Lionel D Timms
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cole
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928
Registration district: Gloucester
Registration county: Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 490

Name: Marry D Timms
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cole
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1934
Registration district: Wesbury S
Registration county: Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 387

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Hi Slowhands

Thankyou for the above info (and the additional info sent offboard). I have also heard from Kim who states that the Greyhound Timms is indeed ours. He did marry a Nellie Cole, which fits in with the Frances N Cole marriage that you found. We would both appreciate it if you could dig out any details on the Cole side please. I am supposed to be doing my online tax return and have digressed (yet again!)

Cheers
Chris

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Name: Frances Nellie Cole
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 333

suspect

1871 Quedgley,
Frederick Cole 43 Norton
Mary Cole 52 Harescombe
Frederick John Cole 5 Gloucester

1881
Frederick Cole abt 1822 Norton, Gloucestershire, England Head Quedgley, Gloucestershire
Frederick John Cole abt 1866 Gloucestershire, England Grandson Quedgley, Gloucestershire

1891
Frederick Charles Cole abt 1866 Gloucestershire, England Head Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
F Ellen Cole abt 1867 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
George Frederick Cole abt 1890 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Frederick Cole abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Father Quedgeley, Gloucestershire

1901
Fredk J Cole abt 1866 Norton, Gloucestershire, England Head Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Ellen Cole abt 1867 Highnam, Gloucestershire, England Wife Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Geo Fredk Cole abt 1891 Hempstead, Gloucestershire, England Son Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Cole abt 1895 Quedgeley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Edith Cole abt 1898 Quedgeley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Florry Cole abt 1899 Quedgeley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Quedgeley, Gloucestershire
Nellie Cole abt 1900 Quedgeley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Quedgeley, Gloucestershire

1911
COLE FREDERICK M 1867 44 Gloucester Gloucestershire
COLE ELLEN F 1868 43 Gloucester Gloucestershire
COLE EDITH F 1898 13 Gloucester Gloucestershire
COLE ELSLIE F 1903 8 Gloucester Gloucestershire
COLE FLORRIE F 1900 11 Gloucester Gloucestershire
COLE LIZZIE F 1895 16 Gloucester Gloucestershire
COLE NELLY F 1901 10 Gloucester Gloucestershire

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The Trotters fit into my family too but I can't find a name for 5 children of Emma & Thomas, only Flora,Kate,Thomas & Charles who was the 5th? In his second marriage to Mary have you any info on William b 1874?
Thanks Pete

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1871
Thomas Trotter 42
Emma Trotter 40
Thomas Trotter 8
Elizabeth Trotter 8
Alfred Trotter 6
Kate Trotter 4
Flora Trotter 2
Charles H Trotter 5 Months
Mary Meek 24

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