William FROWEN born 1799 Newland (General)
Hi
Does anyone have the details of William's parents and siblings? He was born in 1799 in Newland and married Elizabeth Aston. He is my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandfather.
Thanks
William FROWEN Newland 1799/1800 & associated thread
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 22:20 (6524 days ago) @ Philippa
Siblings listed :-
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5271#p5271
Member submitted in IGI
WILLIAM FROWEN
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH ASTON
Marriage: 29 JUN 1799 Newland, Gloucester, England
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Batch Number: 7306414
Followed by :-
WILLM FROWEN
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 JUN 1800 Coleford, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLM FROWEN
Mother: ELIZTH
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William FROWEN Newland 1799/1800 & associated thread
Thanks for that - but now I'm confused (doesn't take much!)
I have William Frowen as being born in 1799, but the records show he married Elizabeth in 1799, but then I think Elizabeth was born in 1781 so I have probably got my dates wrong.
Thank you also for the link, looks like I have other realtions searching for Frowens which is fantastic, would love to get in contact with you.
Philippa
William FROWEN Newland 1799/1800 & associated thread
I've just gone back and checked the children I have for William and Elizabeth and looked at the Parish Records, those listed on the thread you pointed me to are:-
George baptised 1804
Thomas
Ann
Hannah baptised 1812
John baptised 1814
Susanah
Henry baptised 1818 - my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather
James baptised 1824
(I can't find dates, at first glance, for the others)
I also have William and Edward from another source which are not on this list.
I have gone back and looked at the cenus info for these people and need to be sure of the names of the wives and husbands before I can be certain, does anyone have these people firmly in their tree?
Many thanks, fantastic and helpful site!!
FROWEN Coleford Parish entries
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, January 15, 2007, 02:39 (6524 days ago) @ Philippa
Year 1804
Month Nov
Day 4
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) George
Father's Forename(s) W[illia]m
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Coleford
Month Mar
Day 16
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) Tho[ma]s
Father's Forename(s) W[illia]m
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Coleford
Year 1809
Month Oct
Day 15
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) Ann
Father's Forename(s) W[illia]m
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Coleford
Year 1812
Month Jan
Day 26
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) Hannah
Father's Forename(s) W[illia]m
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Whiteclift
Year 1814
Month Jun
Day 12
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) John
Father's Forename(s) W[illia]m
Mother's Forename(s) Eliz[abe]th
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Coleford
Year 1816
Month Jul
Day 28
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) Susanna
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Whitecliff
Year 1818
Month Dec
Day 13
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) Henry
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Whitecliff
Year 1824
Month Apr
Day 4
Parents Surname FROWEN
Child Forename(s) James
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Col[e]ford
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William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 06:36 (6522 days ago) @ Philippa
Hi Phillipa
William and Elizabeth are my g g g grandparents. My grandfather was Leslie John Frowen, his father was Henry born 1854, his father was Henry born 1818, and his father was your William. I will email you with a genealogy report of the families I have. Bear with me though, it will be later this evening.
As yet I don't have William's siblings.
I have been in touch with Janice, who has also replied to your message but can't find a connection to her at the moment.
Sorry, not sure but have we made contact before, are you related to Stephanie?
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
Hi Simone
Thank you, I was hoping you would get in contact! We are closer than you think as Henry b 1854 and Hannah b1854? are my Gt Gt Grandparents, I am from their second son, William. It would be lovely to see what else you have and I am more than happy to share what I have, although I suspect you already have most of it judging by your postings.
I don't think we have been in contact before and I don't think I have been in contact with Stephanie either.
I have looked to see if I have a Fredrick Frowen for you Janice, but the only one I can find was born in 1885 so not likely to be the same one, but at the moment I have only gone up to the 1901 cenus.
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 08:27 (6522 days ago) @ Philippa
Hi Philippa
Uncle Bill Chepstow!!!!?? :) ( or Uncle Bill Monmouth, as he was known to my mum!!)
I have William as first son though. I have a copy of a page from Hannah Maria's bible with all the children listed. I also have photo of Henry and Hannah and a couple of newspaper cuttings.
I am going to email you shortly, just trying to sort the report so you don't get a load of family who aren't yours!
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 08:31 (6522 days ago) @ Philippa
Philippa
Just had a thought - do you have Hannah's son Thomas Bending as first son?
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
Dont suppose anyone has any links to a Mary Frowen born abt 1789 in Longhope? She went on to marry Thomas Rhodes in 1810 in Newland but already had a son who became William Frowen Rhodes.In later years he founded the Cinderford baptist church (see article elsewhere on this site) Possible parents for Mary are Thomas & Jane but I have not confirmed this yet.
If no particular links, how common is Frowen as a surname in these parts at this time or any hints as to where it comes from.
Thomas Rhodes
by admin 
, Forest of Dean, Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 02:43 (6515 days ago) @ Ashton
Added to Photo Gallery only yesterday
Gravestone of Thomas Rhodes
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/gravestones/
Cinderford Baptist Chapel Graveyard
IN LOVING MEMORY OF THOMAS
RHODES WHO DIED AUG 19 1873
AGED 36 YEARS
"I know that my Redeemer liveth"
Thomas Rhodes was a stone mason and was the son-in-law of William Morgan b.
1814 builder of the CBC through Thomas's marriage to Hannah Rhodes
Thomas Rhodes
I've got A Charles Frowen and Anne Smith who had a daughter Mary, but that was c 1762. I don't, as yet, have any other info on her, but I'll have a search this afternoon and see if I can unearth anything to take her out of the list of possabilities.
Simone - my e mail is playing up and I don't know if the link to a battle role of honours got through to you. Just in case -
http://members.tripod.com/~Glosters/10Roll.html
Do you think the Ernest Frowen listed is our Ernest????
Philippa
Ernest Frowen
by Simone , Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 04:23 (6515 days ago) @ Philippa
Hi Phillipa
I don't recognise Ernest Harry Frowen on the site you gave me. I know that my grandfather's brother Ernest b 1882 survived the war. Ernest's sons, Ernest b 1901 and Albert b c 1912, were both killed in WW2. Apparantly they suffered a direct hit at 94 Clay Lane, Coventry in 1940. Ernest died immediately and Albert died 4 months later from the shock we believe.
I've seen reference to them on a couple of sites though, like this one
http://www.familyresearcher.co.uk/BlitzDeaths6.htm
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 04:13 (6515 days ago) @ Ashton
Hi Ashton
I can't find any link in my tree.
Frowen seems to be very common in the Firest at that time.
Our family was always told that the name had it's origins in Germany, although I've never had any proof of it.
Alledgedly my g grandmother Hannah Maria, when she was annoyed, always referred to her husnband Henry as 'that ****** German'. He was born in the Forest though and his father and Grandfather before him!
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
Simone, I must tell my mother that, it sounds like she would of liked her g g grandmother!
Have you already discounted our Mary? I won't dig around if you have.
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 04:40 (6515 days ago) @ Philippa
Philippa
Did you get the info I emailed to you? Is your connection definitely the same as mine? You mentioned Thomas previously being your gg grandfather?
I don't have Thomas b 1847 as a son to Henry b 1854 and Hannah Maria, but Thomas is son of Henry b 1818 and Maria (nee Powell), i.e he is the brother of Henry b 1854. Thomas married Eliza and moved to Wales, although Eliza seems to be in the Forest on her own later on.
If you would like me to send the reports via normal post I don't mind if you don't mind emailing me your postal address. I'll send a copy of the page from Hannah Maraia's bible too and a photo of her husband Henry. I have one of her also but can't find it at the mo. Will have to wait until my sister brings a copy at the weekend.
From what you say, I think that my Henry b 1854 and Hannah Maria b 1854, late Bending nee Wright, are brother and sister-in-law to your Thomas.
By the way Hannah was known as Hannah 'Ma-rye-a', to the family, if you can understand that poor effort at trying to illustrate pronunciation!
Got to pop out now, back later.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
Simone
Thanks, I did get everything but I am having trouble sending and receving e mails as my laptop is fading away!
My line is:-
Charles m Anne Smith
William m Elizabeth Aston
Henry m Maria Powell
Thomas b 1849 m Elizabeth Kersley b 1854
William b 1879 m Priscilla Williams b 1870
Then my grandmother and her 7 siblings
Thomas moved to Llanharan in Glamorgan sometime between 1891 and 1901 and most of his sons seem to have gone with him with a couple of the girls. I haven't sorted this out yet, but it seems that Elizabeth may well of stayed in the Forest.
Once my e mail problems are sorted I will send you all the info I have along with my address, I would love to have a copy of the bible, thank you.
Actually, it would be really nice to talk to you, so I'll e mail my telephone number as well if you want to get in touch.
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 06:13 (6514 days ago) @ Philippa
Hi Philipa
Do you have Charles ans Ann as William's parents then? Must admit I haven't done much further lately because I've been tied up doing a tree as a favour for a friend.
Just to clarify my line is
William Frowen b m Elizabeth Aston
Henry b 1818 m Maria Powell
Henry b 1854 (that **** German) m Hannah Maria Wright 1854 (late Bending, nee Wright)
Leslie John Frowen b 1893 m Annie Louisa Howell b 1899- my grandparents
So my gg grandparents are your ggg grandparents
Will wait to hear from you
Simone x
William FROWEN born 1799 Newland
by Simone , Wednesday, January 24, 2007, 06:15 (6514 days ago) @ Philippa
sorry pressed send again