by Laureninaustralia, (123 days ago)
Hello - I am trying to find the records of my grandfather, Mervyn Ellis. Who was either born or placed in an orphanage around Dec 1914. Would anyone have any tips on how to search? It was in the Monmouthshire area but I don’t know where abouts exactly.
Thank you x
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (122 days ago) @ Laureninaustralia
Not a lot to go on
best "match" so far would be a possible in Pontypool ????
First name(s) Arthur D M
Country Wales
Last name Ellis
Volume 11A
Birth registration year 1913
Page 352
Registration quarter 1
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Colman
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Pontypool
Subcategory Civil Births
County Monmouthshire
Collections from Great Britain, Wales
or a long way way
First name(s) Mervyn F E
Country England
Last name Ellis
Volume 4A
Birth registration year 1913
Page 1625
Registration quarter 1
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name English
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Halstead
Subcategory Civil Births
County Essex
Collections from Great Britain, England
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by Laureninaustralia, (121 days ago) @ slowhands
Thank you. I have seen these ones come up. I think it’s possible that his birth parents were living in India at the time. Im
Not sure how he got from India to Monmouthshire!
It’s possible that his surname was picked by the orphanage. I do think (based on DNA links) that Mervyn and William were picked by the parents. It’s all a bit of a riddle!
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (121 days ago) @ Laureninaustralia
that helps
Halstead Essex is not far from Colchester - a major Garrison town ( almost certain to have India links)
then this opens up
First name(s) William Mervyn
Father's last name Ellis
Last name Ellis
Father's first name(s) Herbert
Mother's first name(s) Hilda May
Birth year 1914
Archive reference N-1-400
Birth date 12 Dec 1914
Folio 32
Baptism year 1914
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal
Baptism date 28 Dec 1914
Record set British India Office Births & Baptisms
Place Cawnpore,All Souls
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Presidency Bengal
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Country India
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
First name(s) Hilda May
Country India
Last name Ellis
Archive The British Library
Birth year 1895
Archive reference N-1-461
Age 27
Page 324
Death year 1922
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Death date 25 Jun 1922
Record set British India Office Deaths & Burials
Year 1922
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 26 Jun 1922
Subcategory Parish Burials
Place Meerut
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Hilda May McCurley Marriage to: Clarence Fitzherbert Ellis
June 7 1913 Bareilly, Bengal, India
First name(s) Clarence Fitzherbert
Groom's father's last name Ellis
Last name Ellis
Bride's father's first name(s) Theo
Marriage year 1913
Bride's father's last name McCurley
Marriage date 7 Jun 1913
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Spouse's first name(s) Hilda May
Archive reference N-1-389
Spouse's last name McCurley
Folio number 29
Place Bareilly
Entry number 1
Presidency Bengal
Record set British India Office Marriages
Country India
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Groom's age 30
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Bride's age 19
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Groom's father's first name(s) John A S
Name Clarence Fitzherbert Ellis
Birth 1883 Bengal, India
Death 1974
Clarence Fitz Herbert Ellis was with the 7Th Hussars in Meerut India and discharged in 1916 Private ( Temp Sergeant) of good character and a Civil Engineer
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by Laureninaustralia, (120 days ago) @ slowhands
Oh my gosh. This is perfect. Thank you so so much.
This is making more sense now. Next up is working out how he got from India to Monmouthshire!
Thank yiu
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (120 days ago) @ Laureninaustralia
his mother dies in 1922 - thats the obvious trigger for a 7 yr old to find himself in care
I cant find a passenger record to show a move to Wales
Meerut could be confused with Monmouth possible ?
Not sure what history you have oral , written ?
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by Laureninaustralia, (120 days ago) @ slowhands
I’m so grateful for the info you have shared. DNA ha shown that Hilda
Was his mother ❤️. Info about at orphanage in Monmouthshire was oral - it’s pretty accurate though. I wish I still lived in the UK so I could physically check records. I’m so thankful for your help
by Paul Andrews, Shropshire, England, (120 days ago) @ slowhands
Images of William Mervyn Ellis' baptism, the marriage of Clarence Fitzherbert Ellis to Hilda May McCurley and the burial record of Hilda May Ellis are available on Find My Past.
by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, (120 days ago) @ slowhands
Name Hilda May Ellis (born McCurley)
Birth 1895 Allahabad, Bengal, India
Father
Theophilus Edmund Thomas St John McCurley
Residence Bengal, India 1853
Birth July 9 1853 India
Christening Sep 11 1855 Sealkote, Bengal, India
Marriage Marriage to: Agnes Angelina McCurley (born Jacob)
Dec 7 1877 Allahabad, Bengal, India
Grandfather
Richard McCurley
Birth 1851 Sialkot, Bengal, India
Death June 24 1854 Sialkot, Bengal, India
Burial June 24 1854 Sealkote, Bengal, India
GGrandfather
Richard McCurley
Birth Feb 10 1829 Muttra, Bengal, India
Marriage Marriage to: Susan Knight Waterman / Holloway / McCurley (born Knight)
Sep 11 1855 Sialkot, India
Death Jan 9 1857 Cawnpore, India
GGGrandfather
Peter Patrick McCurley
Birth 1800 Ferhay, Galway, Ireland
Marriage Marriage to: Elizabeth McCurley (born McCarthy)
June 4 1832 Fort William, Bengal, India
Death Feb 26 1847 Fort William, Bengal, India
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by MPGriffiths, (122 days ago) @ Laureninaustralia
Just Googled : Workhouses in Monmouthshire did they take in Orphans?
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A1 Overview
Yes, workhouses in Monmouthshire, like those elsewhere, did admit orphans. They were a designated group within the workhouse population, alongside the poor, the sick, the elderly and unmarried mothers. Some workhouses, such as the one in Chepstow, even established separate children’s homes to house orphaned and abandoned children.
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Gwent Archives
Hold Monmouthshire records