Longhope Rudges and Coleman (General)

by John Rudge, Sunday, February 18, 2007, 02:06 (6493 days ago)

Looking for researchers of this connected family.

**Working Notes**
The Coleman family has connection to the Rudge family.

I. Nancy Coleman married to William Rudge
A. There is a marriage date of 17 October 1808 at English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England

B. From that marriage there were at least 3 or 4 children born in England.
i. William Rudge: Baptised: 17 December 1809 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
ii. James Rudge: Baptised: 29 September 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
iii. Mary Ann Rudge: Baptised: 20 Feburary 1814 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
iv. John Rudge: Baptised: 25 Feburary 1816 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

C. I began searching the records for John b. abt. 1816 in Longhope, Gloucestershire because I had been given that as his place of birth from the 1851 Ashton Ingham, Newent District, Herefordshire, English Census.

D. I believe that the 1851 census was correct because it listed the members that should have been as part of the household and the parents place of birth as Longhope, Gloucestershire, England. ie:
i. John Rudge 33 yrs
ii. Mary Rudge
iii. William Rudge 4 yrs
iv. Sarah Rudge 9 mo.

E. While searching the Baptism records for John Rudge 1816, I found that father was listed as William and that his mother was listed as Nancy. I next looked for James and found James Rudge with a Baptism date of Sep. 1811. (A note here it said that James' father was William and that his mother was Ann) I believe that it is still William and Nancy and that it was entered as Ann or Nan.

F. From there I looked for the Marriage information on William to a Nancy

G. The fact that the father was listed as William made some sense to me because I had always felt that since John Rudge b. 1816 and James b.1811 had both named their first born male child WILLIAM, that chances were that their fathers name was WILLIAM!

II. Mary Coleman married to John Rudge
A. There is a marriage date of December 1845 Record #XI/510 , I think in Herford, Herefordshire, England.

John RUDGE 1817 Longhope

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, December 08, 2007, 08:15 (6200 days ago) @ John Rudge

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1851
John Rudge abt 1818 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Aston Ingham Herefordshire
Mary Rudge abt 1826 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Aston Ingham Herefordshire
Sarah A Rudge abt 1850 Aston, Herefordshire, England Daughter Aston Ingham Herefordshire
William Rudge abt 1847 Lanover Kelgider, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Aston Ingham Herefordshire

1861
John Rudge abt 1817 Gloucestershire, England Head Orcop Herefordshire
Mary Rudge abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Wife Orcop Herefordshire
Hannah Rudge Jabt 1858 Orcop, Herefordshire, England Daughter Orcop Herefordshire
Sarah Ann Rudge abt 1851 Orcop, Herefordshire, England Daughter Orcop Herefordshire
William Rudge abt 1847 Monmouthshire, Wales Son Orcop Herefordshire

James RUDGE 1811 Longhope

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, December 08, 2007, 08:19 (6200 days ago) @ John Rudge

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1841
James Rudge abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Lower and Upper Longhope Gloucestershire
Ann Rudge abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Lower and Upper Longhope Gloucestershire
John Rudge abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Lower and Upper Longhope Gloucestershire
Mary Rudge abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Lower and Upper Longhope Gloucestershire
Nathaniel Rudge abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Lower and Upper Longhope Gloucestershire

1851
James Rudge abt 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Longhope Gloucestershire
Ann Rudge abt 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Longhope Gloucestershire
Carry Rudge abt 1841 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son Longhope Gloucestershire
James Rudge abt 1849 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son Longhope Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Rudge abt 1836 Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Longhope Gloucestershire
Nathinel Rudge abt 1839 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son Longhope Gloucestershire


1861
James Rudge abt 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Longhope Gloucestershire
Ann Rudge abt 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Longhope Gloucestershire
Nathaniel Rudge abt 1839 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son Longhope Gloucestershire

1871
James Rudge abt 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Head Longhope Gloucestershire
Anne Rudge abt 1811 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Longhope Gloucestershire
Nathaniel Rudge abt 1839 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Son Longhope Gloucestershire

James RUDGE 1811 Longhope

by John Rudge, Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 06:47 (5846 days ago) @ slowhands

Still looking for my James Rudge and wife Eliza (Nicholls I believe). James born 1811 in the Forest may have moved to Monmouth for employment and married at that place, about 1838 to 1840.

Their daughter Elizabeth Rudge was born abt.1840 place unknown. I think that the family could still have been located at Monmouth from 1840 to 1843. Their next child is born in America abt. 1844.

Any ideas where I might look? thanks John

James RUDGE 1811 Longhope

by ChrisW @, Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 09:49 (5846 days ago) @ John Rudge

This one on FreeBMD?


Marriages Jun 1838

CHARLES Elizabeth Abergavenny 26 21
Davis William Abergavenny 26 21
NICHOLAS Eliza Abergavenny 26 21
RUDGE James Abergavenny 26 21

With a couple of possibles for Elizabeth?


Births Jun 1840
Rudge Elizabeth Crickhowell 26 299


Births Sep 1840
Rudge Elizabeth Monmouth 26 74

James RUDGE 1811 Longhope

by John Rudge, Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 11:57 (5846 days ago) @ ChrisW

Thanks

Looks like a good fit ..,Elizabeth would then be expected to be on the 1841 census?

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