Elizabeth HALL & son George born Lydney 1880-3? (General)

by sandra, Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 13:12 (6480 days ago)

I am trying to find information about Elizabeth Hall born 1861 in Lincoln who ran off to the Forest of Dean with a "woodsman"(or so family stories have it!). I think he was married as she never married him, but she had several children with him (all with the surname Hall)the first was George born in Lydney? Gloucestershire 20/2/1880-3?. There is possibly a John Hall born 1882 also.( he shows up on the workhouse census, but I am not sure if he is related) Family tales have it that she stayed with the woodsman until he died then moved back to Lincoln with her children (she and the children are in the workhouse in Lincoln on the 1891 census).

I am hoping to find census records from the Forest of Dean area so I can find the family and see what the woodsman's name was. I think they may have moved about a bit, as another child William Hall was born in Derby 1883 and another Rose Hall in Bury St Edmunds 1888, unless of course they had different fathers!! She had three more children Catherine Hall born in Lincoln 1890, (then she married a man called William Wheatcroft in 1892 and had Alice born Lincoln 1893 and Edward born Lincoln 1896.

If anybody has any knowledge of the family I would be most interested to hear it.

Elizabeth HALL & son George born Lydney 1880-3?

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 20:55 (6480 days ago) @ sandra

<not sure if this fills in any gaps >

1871 ?
William Hall abt 1837 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Head St Nicholas Lincolnshire
Jane Hall abt 1833 Hemswell, Lincolnshire, England Wife St Nicholas Lincolnshire
Elizabeth Hall abt 1862 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Daughter St Nicholas Lincolnshire
Joseph Hall abt 1868 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Son St Nicholas Lincolnshire


1881 8 & 9 Thomas St
Elizabeth Hall abt 1862 Lincoln, England Lodger Chepstow Monmouthshire


1891
George Hall abt 1881 Lidney, Gloucestershire, England Inmate St Paul Lincolnshire
Rose Hall abt 1888 Bury, St Edmunds Inmate St Paul Lincolnshire
William Hall abt 1883 Derby, Derbyshire, England Inmate St Paul Lincolnshire
Catherine Hall abt 1884 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Inmate St Paul Lincolnshire
John Hall abt 1885 Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Inmate St Paul Lincolnshire

1901
Elizabeth Wheatcroft abt 1862 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Head St Peter At Gowts Lincolnshire
Alice Wheatcroft abt 1893 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Daughter St Peter At Gowts Lincolnshire
Edward Wheatcroft abt 1896 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Son St Peter At Gowts Lincolnshire
Catharine Hall abt 1890 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Daughter St Peter At Gowts Lincolnshire
Rose Hall abt 1888 Bury St Edmunds Daughter St Peter At Gowts Lincolnshire
William Hall abt 1883 Derby, Derbyshire, England Son St Peter At Gowts Lincolnshire


George Hall abt 1883 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Apprentice Vessels Lincolnshire

Elizabeth HALL & son George born Lydney 1880-3?

by sandra, Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 03:39 (6480 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi thanks for the fast reply. The 1871 census info is her with her mum, dad and brother in Lincoln.
The 1881 census is probably her, I was hoping George would be on it and the man she was living with, so I could identify him. She must have moved from chepstow to Lydney at some point if George was born there. Are there any other occupants of that address listed?
The 1891 census shows her back in Lincon workhouse with the children.
The 1901 census shows her having married William Wheatcroft and living with the rest of her children, the eldest boys (William & George) had joined the army at this point George as a bombadier in the 14th battery of the Royal Horse Artillery - eventually sent to JHanfi in India.
Not sure if John was part of the family. Thanks again for your help. Sandra.

Elizabeth HALL & son George born Lydney 1880-3?

by Brian Ellis, Friday, March 02, 2007, 06:59 (6478 days ago) @ sandra

Sorry Sandra only just seen your message. Just to let you know that unfortunately there is not baptism for him between 1880 and 1913 in Lydney Parish Registers.

Elizabeth HALL & son George born Lydney 1880-3?

by sandra, Friday, March 02, 2007, 23:46 (6477 days ago) @ Brian Ellis

Thank you for the reply. I seem to have come up against a brick wall then. Anyone got any ideas how I can discover the identity of Georges Father. I really need to get a copy of his birth certificate to comfirm the place of birth. I am quite new at all of this and apparently I need a GRO reference number, can anyone please tell me what that is and how I get one. Thank you for your help. Sandra.

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