Oliver Henry THOMAS - Bream (General)
Please can anyone help with Oliver Henry Thomas,I have his marriage certificate to Clara Thomas 3rd July 1897.he was 23yrs old and a collier his residence at the time looks like Bream,his fathers name also looks like Bert!!!Thomas sorry I can't read the writing very well.The church was St Pauls could be Parkend, or Garsand!!!I am looking for any information on Oliver please.
Janice
Oliver Henry THOMAS - Bream
This marriage record can be viewed in the Parish Records section of this website
record_id 15354
Entry Number 145
Year 1897
Month Jul
Day 3
Groom Surname THOMAS
Groom Forename(s) Oliver Henry
Groom Age at Marriage 24
Groom condition bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession collier
Groom Residence Bream
Groom Father's Surname BIRT
Groom Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Father's Rank or Profession collier
Bride Surname HOWELLS
Bride Forename(s) Clara
Bride Age at Marriage 23
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Yorkley
Bride Father's Surname HOWELLS
Bride Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Bride Father's Rank or Profession woodman
Licence or Banns banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 Richard Jones
Witness 2 Mary Howells
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister John Bond vicar
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P245 IN 1/22
Page No 73
Parish/Chapel Parkend
Soundex Groom T520
Soundex Bride H420
Oliver Henry THOMAS - Bream
Hi Bertha,
No wonder I can't find his Family.Why would he have a different name to his father?mothers name perhaps,thank you for reply I can now understand the certificate that I have got.
Janice
SMITHS & Oliver Henry THOMAS -1874 Bream
by slowhands 
, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 08:53 (6403 days ago) @ Janice
looks like Adopted
1851 Berry Hill
Richard Smith abt 1794 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Susan Smith abt 1817 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Amos Smith abt 1828 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Benjiman Smithn abt 1835 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Smith abt 1826 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Elms Smith abt 1831 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
George Smith abt 1833 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Richard Smith abt 1822 Perry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
1861 Saunders Green
George Smith abt 1833 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Rether Smith abt 1839 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
1871 Bream
George Smith abt 1835 N Head Newland Gloucestershire
Esther Smith abt 1841 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Alfred Webb abt 1862 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Newland Gloucestershire
William Smith abt 1846 N Boarder Newland Gloucestershire
1881 Bream Eaves
George Smith abt 1833 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Esther Smith abt 1839 Yorkshireley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Harry O. Thomas abt 1874 Bream Eaves, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean Gloucestershire
1891
George Smith abt 1830 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Esther Smith abt 1839 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Kate M Webb abt 1883 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Niece West Dean
Oliver Thomas abt 1874 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Adopted West Dean Gloucestershire
1901 Bream Eaves
George Smith abt 1834 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Hester Smith abt 1838 Gorkley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Oliver Henry THOMAS -1874 Bream
Thank you,someone has sent me 1891 Living bream Lane West Dean,Thomas Birt 41b Bream Colliery Labourer.Elizabeth Birth (Birt?) 32b Germany.Henry Birt 3b Bream Maria Birt 1b Bream. Could this be his adopted parents??
Janice.
Thomas BIRT -1850 Saunders Green
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 23:42 (6395 days ago) @ Janice
Name: Thomas Birt
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
DISTRICT: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 78
1851 Saunders Green
Harriet Bert abt 1830 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah A Bert abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Bert abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
next door
Sarah Burt abt 1792 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Catherine Burt abt 1830 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
William Beach abt 1815 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean Gloucestershire
Charlotte Beach abt 1821 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean Gloucestershire
Esther Beach abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean Gloucestershire
William Beach abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean
1861
Thomas Birt abt 1822 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire
Harriet Birt abt 1829 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Eliza Birt abt 1858 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Harriet Birt abt 1854 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Herbert Birt abt 1860 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Birt abt 1848 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Thomas Birt abt 1850 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
William Howell abt 1797 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Newland Gloucestershire
1871
Thomas Birt abt 1823 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire
Harriet Birt abt 1829 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Agusta M Birt abt 1868 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Eliza J Birt abt 1858 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Henry Birt abt 1863 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Herbert Birt abt 1860 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Mary E Birt abt 1870 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Sydney Birt abt 1868 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Thos Birt abt 1849 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
William C Birt abt 1865 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland
1881
Thomas Bert abt 1851 Dearfore St, Gloucestershire, England Kentchurch Herefordshire
Name Elizabeth Gassman
Name: Thomas Birt
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 82
1891
Thomas Birt abt 1850 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Birt abt 1859 Germany Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Birt abt 1888 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Maria Birt abt 1890 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
1901
Thomas Birt abt 1849 Saundus Green, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Birt abt 1859 Deu Bristish Subject, Naturaliaen Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Elizabeth V G Birt abt 1895 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire
Gladys Birt abt 1898 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire
Harriet D Birt abt 1892 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire
Henry R Birt abt 1888 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Maria C Birt abt 1890 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire
Thomas Birt abt 1900 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Thomas BIRT -1850 Saunders Green pt 2
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 24, 2007, 00:21 (6395 days ago) @ slowhands
1841 Bream Eaves
Isaac Birt abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Rid James Birt [Richard Jones] abt 1823 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Harriott Birt abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
James Birt abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Maryann Birt abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Johana Birt abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thomas Birt abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
1841 WhiteCroft
Sarah Birt abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Catharine Birt abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Johannah Birt abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Lydia Birt abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thomas Birt abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Oliver Henry THOMAS -1874 Bream
Hi,
Can you help,Oliver Henry Thomas on Marriage Cert 23yrs 1897,Fathers Name THOMAS BIRT.
1891 Census Living with George Smith,Esther Smith and Kate Webb Niece.as Oliver Thomas Adopted.aged 17yrs. On 1881 Census Bream Eaves George Smith Esther Smith and Harry.O.Thomas Boarder. aged 7 yrs.Esthers maiden name was Webb.But where can Thomas Birt come into this puzzle.Are Oliver Henry and Harry.O.the same person I am getting lost with this.I am trying to find the Thomas Family.
Janice.
Oliver Henry THOMAS -1874 Bream
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 24, 2007, 00:49 (6395 days ago) @ Janice
Looks like George and Esther SMITH are a childless couple living in Saunders Green who take in and adopt Oliver Henry / Henry Oliver.
Looks like Thomas BIRT is the father , before he marries Elizabeth Gassman.
Saunders Green linked to Thomas BIRT.
So who was the mother - a THOMAS ?
where did the Oliver come from ?
THOMAS baptism boxing day 1873 Bream
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 24, 2007, 01:33 (6395 days ago) @ Janice
This transcription looks promising
Year 1873
Month Dec
Day 26
Parents Surname THOMAS
Child Forename(s) Edwin Oliver
Father's Forename(s) [not stated]
Mother's Forename(s) Louisa
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Breams Eaves
Occupation [not stated]
Officiating Minister J F Gosling
Event type Baptism
Memoranda [1] St Stephens[at date] [2] Sponsers Charles Masters Sarah Ann Whiting
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/4
Page No 14
Parish/Chapel Bream
Name: Edwin Oliver Thomas
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
DISTRICT: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 28
1841 Redbrook
Richard Howells abt 1821 Newland Gloucestershire Tin worker
Ester Howells abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire
Margaret Howells abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire
1851
Richards Howells abt 1820 Pantapool, Monmouthshire, Wales Head English Bicknor Gloucestershire
Esther Howells abt 1824 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife English Bicknor Gloucestershire
George Howells abt 1850 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor Gloucestershire
Helen Howells abt 1842 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter English Bicknor Gloucestershire
Henry Howells abt 1828 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son English Bicknor Gloucestershire
John Howells abt 1846 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Son English Bicknor Gloucestershire
Louisa Howells abt 1841 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter English Bicknor Gloucestershire
Name: Louisa Howell
Name: William Thomas
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 49
1861 William Thomas abt 1837 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Louisa Thomas abt 1840 Redbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Elizth Helen Thomas abt 1858 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles Thomas abt 1860 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
1861 St Pauls Cottage Parkend
James Thomas abt 1829 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Thomas abt 1833 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
William Thomas abt 1856 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
now looks like a change of husband for Louisa
1871 Bream Eaves
James Thomas abt 1829 Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Lousia Thomas abt 1836 Redbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Alfred C Thomas abt 1867 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Margariet L Thomas abt 1870 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
William Thomas abt 1856 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
1881
James Thomas abt 1831 Kidwelly Head Penalt Monmouthshire
Louisa Thomas abt 1836 Redbrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Penalt Monmouthshire
Alfred Charles Thomas abt 1867 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Penalt Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Jane Thomas abt 1873 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Penalt Monmouthshire
James Edwin Thomas abt 1880 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Penalt Monmouthshire
Margaret Louisa Thomas abt 1870 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Penalt Monmouthshire
THOMAS bapism boxing day 1873 Bream
Hi slowhands,
A big thank you,what mixed up family!! I just didn't know where to start,I had some info,but was lost so to speak.
Thank you again
Janice.
THOMAS baptism boxing day 1873 Bream
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 24, 2007, 02:51 (6395 days ago) @ Janice
it needs further investigation , but the further (Louisa) HOWELLS connection is tempting !
Getting Birth Certificate
Hi
Can you help,I have found in Parish Records looks like one of Oliver and Clara's children Maurice Henry Smith Thomas born Dec 4th 1899 Place of residence Sanders Green.how do I find Ref for getting Birth Certificate,Ive looked on find my past and bmd can't find it.This looks like a bit of a break,that this was Olivers name.
Regards
Janice.
Getting Birth Certificate
by admin 
, Forest of Dean, Thursday, May 31, 2007, 17:54 (6388 days ago) @ Janice
These two previous postings will help you.
Link to the entry: http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5964#p5965
Link to the entry: http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=1016#p1018
just could be your man..Morris Henry Thomas(?) SMITH
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, May 31, 2007, 21:31 (6387 days ago) @ Janice
Saunders Green>>>>>
Name: Morris Henry T Smith
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 22
1901 64 New Town
Harry Smith abt 1875 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Abertillery Monmouthshire
Clara Smith abt 1875 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abertillery Monmouthshire
Hilda Smith abt 1898 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abertillery Monmouthshire
Maurice Smith abt 1900 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Abertillery Monmouthshire