Etenbury, HRF. & Tredville, MON.

Please could someone explain where I shoud be looking for information about ETENBURY, MON. and TREDVILLE,MON.

Ever on the Sindrey trail, I found these census entries:-

1851 Census at Rocks Bottom, Wick and Abson, S.Glos.

Thomas CINDERS c.1823 Wick and Abson
Mary Ann c.1823 ETENBURY, MON.
George c.1843 TREDVILLE, MON.
Sophia c. 1846 TREDVILLE MON.
Sarah 1849 TREDVILLE MON.

1861 Census Bitton near Wick and Abson.

Thomas SENDRY c.1817 Wick and Abson
Mary Ann c. 1828 Pontypool
Sarah c. 1851 Pontypool
Samuel c.1854 Wick and Abson

1851 Census Bitton Vicarage

Sophia Sindrey c.1847 PORTMENDAS,MON. nursery maid.

When Sarah and Samuel were married ,they both used the name SINDREY.

I know it is easy to jump to conclussions, but they do seem to be the same family.

Ann Sindrey

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Etenbury, HRF

Instinct says try Ledbury. (although Tenbury Well Worcestershire is possible too)

although this looks like a match

MARY ANN LODGE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 NOV 1820 Allensmore, Hereford, England
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: JOHN LODGE
Mother: SARAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C131051 1660 - 1863 0993075 Film NONE
Sheet:

Tredville, MON.

Trevethin is the alternate name for "old" Pontypool
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Trevethan/index.html

I wonder if the census recorded "Trefvine" and its been transcribed as Tredville ?

PORTMENDAS could be Pontnewyndd.

Name: Mary Ann Lodge
Name: Thomas Sindry
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Pontypool
County: Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 195

1841 Sowhill area of Pontypool
Mary Lodge abt 1821 Trevethan Monmouthshire

www.old-maps.co.uk

co ords of Sowhill near Tranch, Pontypool, just north of Lower Race
327400,200800

Name: Mary Ann Sindry
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
DISTRICT: Thornbury
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 112

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Well, Slowhands, thanks so much for your help, now I have some things to work on. As the grandchildren would say, "You're cool!"

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I am researching the Sindrey family that you refer to in the 1851 census. I believe that Mary Ann Sindry didn't die in 1865 [as another respondent speculated], she was with her daughter (Sophia Ferris, wife of John) in 1871 at Trevethin Monmouthshire. In 1881 she was with the same family at Cheetham Lancashire, her surname transcribed as "Lindsey" by findmypast. Her daughter Sophia was born before Thomas "Sindry" and Mary Ann (Lodge) married in the last quarter of 1845, so I believe this is her in freebmd: Births Sep 1845 LODGE Sophia Pontypool 26 122. I think I have found Sarah's birth [freebmd: Births Jun 1848 SINDERY Sarah Abergavenny 26 16] but have not found that of siblings George [b~1843] nor Samuel [b~1854] Samuel moves to Manchester too. My particular interest is in following Sarah, who married John Titterington; I'm still searching for that marriage - and her family in 1871.... Regards

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Looking at the 1881 census - the 3 families are on page, 44, 45, and 46 at Cheetham, Lancashire

John TETHERINGTON - 36 - labourer, born Lancashire
Sarah - 32 - born ditto
Edward - 12 - born Gloucestershire **
Samuel - 10 - born Leicestershire
Marian - 7 - born Cumberland
Lucy - 6 - born ditto
George - 1 -

next page is

John FERRIS - 35 - born Gloucestershire
Sophia - 34 - born Gloucestershire
Tom - 14, Anne - 12, George - 10, Cilla 7, Charlie 5, (all born Gloucestershire, 3 registered in Keynsham District - up to Annie Matilda 1869 **) John, 2, Harry - 6 months and Mary A SINDERY - lodger, Widow age 60 born Herefordshire

** Ancestry: Annie Matilda FERRIS christened 4 April 1869 along with Tom - Oldland St Anne - Gloucester - parents John & Sophia)

then

Samuel SINDREY with his family.

Ancestry:

John FERRIS married 8 April 1866 at Kingswood, Nr Bristol, Gloucestershire to Sophia LODGE

There is on Freebdm

?? ** a birth of an Edward SINDRY - Keynsham (which covers Kingswood) - O/N/D Qtr 1868 **

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Thanks MPGriffiths, I hadn't spotted the consecutive pages of the 1881 census, as I'd researched each separately. I've always thought that the 3 families might be aware of each other in Manchester; their closeness on the census makes that more likely. I have seen the birth certificate of that Edward Sindry and he was the son of Sarah. Edward was born 26 Nov 1868 at Oldlands Common Bitton Gloucs. He died in WW1 in 1917. That was my first post on this forum and am pleased to have such a positive reply! I feel I've drifted from the original topic however; I used Google maps to ascertain that Slowhands could have a point - Pontnewynydd is indeed very close to Trevethin. There is a lovely resource that allows you to view old Ordnance Survey maps - to 6 inch scale, published by the National Library of Scotland: http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/index.html
It has a map published 1886 of the area including Trevethin (surveyed 1879-1881) Worth a look to find places that may have "disappeared"...

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At the moment can't find John FERRIS and Sophia with their family on the 1871 census in Trevethin - could you add the census to this forum.

On Ancestry: Birmingham Baptism at St Alban the Martyr Bordesley, in the Parish of Aston

on the 22 February 1877

3 FERRIS baptisms of John (labourer) & Sophia - who were living in Highgate Street

Charles William FERRIS
George Lodge FERRIS
Lilla Mary FERRIS

and one SINDRY on the same day - and same address

George SINDRY - son of Samuel (labourer) & Eliza

and then at Sparkbrook Christchurch Warwickshire - 8 August 1877

Sophia FERRIS - - private baptism - parents John & Sophia - living at 11 Highgate Street

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Thank you for all that information. I had not looked for Baptisms for this family yet.
This is the census for 1871: Snatchwood Road Trevethin Monmouthshire Wales Registration district: Pontypool Archive reference: RG10 Piece number: 5333 Folio: 41 Page: 17

John Fervis - 25 - engine stoker at works, born Gloucestershire (Kempsford)
Sophia Fervis – 24 – dressmaker, born Monmouthshire (Pontypool)
Tom Fervis – 4 – born Gloucestershire (Oldland Common)
Annie M Fervis – 2 – born Gloucestershire (Oldland Common)
George Fervis – 1 month – born Monmouthshire (Abersychan)
Mary A Surdrey, Mother-In-Law, widow – 46 – dressmaker, born Herefordshire (“Longton” = Longtown?)
Samuel Surdrey, boarder – 19 single – stoker, born Gloucestershire (Wick)

For 1871, findmypast doesn't transcribe occupations and only the county where born; so some of what you see represents my version of the truth

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This is Ancestry's transcript:

Household schedule number Given Name Surname Relationship Age Estimated Birth Year Gender Birth City Birth County Birth Country
91 John Lewis Head 25 1846 Male Kempsford Gloucestershire England
92 Sophia Lewis Wife 24 1847 Female Pontypool Monmouthshire Wales
92 Tom Lewis Son 4 1867 Male Oldland Commser Gloucestershire England
92 Anne M Lewis Daughter 2 1869 Female Oldland Commser Gloucestershire England
92 George Lewis Son 1 Month 1871 Male Abersychan Monmouthshire Wales
92 Mary A Swedrey Mother in Law 46 1825 Female Longton Herefordshire England
92 Samuel Swedrey Boarder 19 1852 Male Wick Gloucestershire England

Mike

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