Caleb HOLDER b.1871, in BROCKWORTH, Glos. (General)

by Eugene.Rideout, Thursday, June 28, 2007, 02:24 (6360 days ago)

New user, Eugene Rideout here, in Toronto, Canada.

I have my wife's maternal grandfather's birth certificate. Data as follows:

CALEB HOLDER / Brockworth, Glos. / 27 April 1871
Mother: MARIA HOLDER formerly PRICE / Father's profession: Farm Labourer / Registrar: Ambrose Dawson Cookson / Dated Third June 1871
[This is an official copy of the original dated 18 February 1901, Entry No. 249 - Page 50.]

1871 Census records, the year Caleb was born, show the only Maria listed there as only ten years old at that time. Presume this is not the right Maria Holder.

Caleb was later killed in action in France in 1915.

Is this of value to anyone for filling holes in any of your searches?

All the best.

Eugene R.

Caleb HOLDER b.1871, in BROCKWORTH, Glos.

by shepway @, Thursday, June 28, 2007, 05:31 (6360 days ago) @ Eugene.Rideout

Maria married Caleb in 1855:
Marriages Jun 1855
HOLDER Caleb Gloster 6a 365
PRICE Maria Gloster 6a 365

Births Jun 1871
Holder Caleb Gloucester 6a

Deaths Dec 1893
Holder Caleb 67 Gloucester 6a


1861 Census
Caleb Holder abt 1827 Elley, Gloucestershire, England Head Brockworth Gloucestershire
Maria Holder abt 1836 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Wife Brockworth Gloucestershire
Sarah A Holder abt 1856 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Brockworth Gloucestershire
Emma Holder abt 1858 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Brockworth Gloucestershire
Mark Holder abt 1860 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
William Price abt 1794 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Father-in-law Brockworth Gloucestershire

1871 Census (Poor transcription)
Caleb Solotar abt 1827 Uley, Gloucestershire, England Head Brockworth Gloucestershire
Maria Solotar abt 1835 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Wife Brockworth Gloucestershire
Emma Solotar abt 1858 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Brockworth Gloucestershire
Mark Solotar abt 1860 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
William Solotar abt 1862 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
Alfred So Solotar abt 1864 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
George Halder abt 1867 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
Annie E Halder abt 1869 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Brockworth Gloucestershire
William Price abt 1795 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Father-in-law Brockworth Gloucestershire


1881 Census:
Caleb Holder abt 1826 Uley, Gloucestershire, England Head Brockworth Gloucestershire
Maria Holder Caleb abt 1836 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Wife Brockworth Gloucestershire
William Holder abt 1862 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
Annie Holder abt 1869 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Brockworth Gloucestershire
Caleb Holder abt 1871 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire
Kate Maria Holder abt 1876 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Brockworth Gloucestershire
Frank Holder abt 1879 Brockworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Brockworth Gloucestershire


1851 Census - Price famly
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1962 0515 081 Brockworth PRICE William HD M 55 Ag Lab GLS Brockworth
1962 0515 081 Brockworth PRICE Sarah WI M 56 Ag Lab WIL Roadmartin[?] [Rodmarton GLS?]
1962 0515 081 Brockworth PRICE John SO U 22 Ag Lab GLS Brockworth
1962 0515 081 Brockworth PRICE George SO U 19 Ag Lab GLS Brockworth

1851 Census - Maria PRICE
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1961 0155 012 Cross Keys GARDNER John HD M 35 Publican & Farmer GLS Longford St.Mary
1961 0155 012 Cross Keys GARDNER Sarah WI M 23 Publican & Farmers Wife GLS Longford St.Mary
1961 0155 012 Cross Keys GARDNER Elizabeth DA U 3 Publicans Dau. GLS Longford St.Mary
1961 0155 012 Cross Keys MACE Ann VR U 21 Farmers Daughter WIL Ashton Cayns [Ash+ Keynes]
1961 0155 012 Cross Keys PRICE Maria SV U 16 House Servant - -

1841 Census, Uley Parish (Surname should read BIRT)
John Brit abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Uley Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Brit abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Uley Gloucestershire
Fredrick Brit abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Uley Gloucestershire
Mark Brit abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Uley Gloucestershire
Caleb Holder abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Uley Gloucestershire
Thomas Holder abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Uley Gloucestershire

I am having problems with the 1851 Census but believe this may be the family:

Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1958 0317 050 Uley ELLIOTT Elizabeth - W 52 Pauper GLS Uley
1958 0317 050 Uley ELLIOTT Mark SO U 19 Farm Labourer GLS Uley
1958 0317 050 Uley ELLIOTT Caleb SO U 23 Farm Labourer GLS Uley

I have checked the original and the transcript is correct. The family in an adjoining household is also name ELLIOTT and I suspect the Enumerator has made an error.

It would appear that Caleb spent some time in Gloucester Gaol:

SURNAME FORENAME COMMITTAL AGE PARISH/TOWN OCCUPATION REF:
HOLDER Caleb 26 Nov 1857 30 Uley Labourer Q/Gc6/3
HOLDER Caleb 28 Nov 1857 30 Uley Labourer Q/Gc6/3
HOLDER Caleb 25 Mar 1861 30 Brockworth Labourer Q/Gc6/4

Finally it would appear that the family has no connection with the Forest of Dean.
Brockworth is near the City of Gloucester and Uley is on the wrong side of the River Severn.

Mike

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