James family Ayleford / Soudley (General)

by JSannwald @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 07:50 (6341 days ago)

I am tracing the James line of my family tree. Does anyone have any information on a Maria James ,daughter of Thomas and Sarah James of Ayleford / Soudley. In 1881 she was a domestic servant living at Ayleford House. I believe she had a daughter Beatrice ( illegitimate) in 1886. In 1901 census Beatrice was a visitor in Soudley . Does anyone have any more information about them?

James family Ayleford / Soudley

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 09:10 (6341 days ago) @ JSannwald

MARIA JANE JAMES was baptised on 09/07/1865 at Cinderford St John.
BEATRICE EMILY JAMES was born 12/04/1886 and baptised on 04/06/1886 at Cinderford St John (no father's name). Both records can be viewed on this site. I can't find a marriage or burial for Maria or Beatrice, but we'll get Slowhands on the case!

Regards
Christine

James family Ayleford / Soudley

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 09:49 (6341 days ago) @ ChrisW

Do you have Maria's siblings? I have found the following so far:

Thomas bap. 27/01/1861 at Cinderford St John
Emily bap. 09/02/1868 ditto
William Thomas bap. 16/01/1870 ditto

Chris

James family Ayleford / Soudley

by JSannwald @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 10:03 (6341 days ago) @ ChrisW

Yes, becuase of this excellent site I have found the siblings in the parish records. I believe Thomas to be my gg grandfather. At least three children died young I think from reading the parish records. I have been trying to trace what happened to the other children. Margaret, born 1873 was my g grandmother. Her brother Samuel married. Have not yet traced Emily , Willian John past their baptism or indeed Maria past the 1881 census and the record of Beatrice's baptism .

James family Ayleford / Soudley

by shepway @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 12:22 (6341 days ago) @ JSannwald

Burial for William:
record_id 54723
Entry Number 89
Year 1870
Month Apr
Day 27
Surname JAMES
Forename(s) William
Place of Residence Soudley
Age at death 4 months
Officiating Minister T.G.Smythies
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/13
Page No 12
Parish/Chapel Cinderford St Johns

Mike

James family Ayleford / Soudley

by shepway @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 12:23 (6341 days ago) @ JSannwald

Burial for Emily:
record_id 54758
Entry Number 124
Year 1870
Month Dec
Day 11
Surname JAMES
Forename(s) Emily
Place of Residence Soudley
Age at death 3 years
Officiating Minister T.G.Smythies
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/13
Page No 16
Parish/Chapel Cinderford St Johns

Mike

Maria JAMES 1866 Ayleford / Soudley

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 10:29 (6341 days ago) @ JSannwald

1841
Ann James abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Richard James abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Richard James abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Thomas James abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Maria James abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire


1851
Thomas James abt 1836 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Nephew East Dean Gloucestershire

Spouse ?
Name: Thomas James
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
DISTRICT: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 370


1861
Thomas James abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Charlotte James abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann James abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas James abt 1861 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1871
Thomas James abt 1837 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
James James abt 1871 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Maria James abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Browning abt 1849 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Boarder East Dean Gloucestershire
Joseph Jones abt 1841 Staffordshire, England Boarder East Dean Gloucestershire
Adelaide Lewis abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Sister-in-law East Dean Gloucestershire

1881
Maria James abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire

1881
Thomas James abt 1838 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1840 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Margaret James abt 1874 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Samuel James abt 1871 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire

1891
Thomas James abt 1837 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah James abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Samuel James abt 1871 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Beatres E James abt 1886 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean Gloucestershire

1901
Beatrice E James abt 1886 Aylesford, Gloucestershire, England Visitor East Dean Gloucestershire

1901
Sarah James abt 1838 Soudley, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire

Maria JAMES 1866 Ayleford / Soudley

by shepway @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 10:57 (6341 days ago) @ slowhands

Possible 1851 Census for Thomas:
East Dean Township part of in Denby Walk and Ecclesiastical District of Saint Johns
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill FRANKLIN George HD M 31 Blacksmith GLS Bream
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill FRANKLIN Mary WI M 26 - GLS East Dean
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill JAMES Thomas SO - 5 - GLS East Dean
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill JAMES Richard NP U 17 Iron Miner GLS Bream
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill JAMES Thomas NP U 15 Iron Miner GLS Bream
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill JAMES Martha NC U 9 Scholar GLS Bream
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill NELMES Ann VR U 19 Visitor GLS Gloucester
1959 0312 010 Bradley Hill NELMES Elizabeth VR U 15 Visitor GLS East Dean

Mike

Maria JAMES 1866 Ayleford / Soudley

by shepway @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:39 (6341 days ago) @ slowhands

Unable to find marriage but in 1871 Census Adelaide LEWIS is listed as Sister in Law.
In 1851 this family living very close to Thomas JAMES:
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1959 0311 004 Bradley Hill WAIT Samuel HD M 62 Rail Lab GLS Newnham
1959 0311 004 Bradley Hill WAIT Elizabeth WI M 49 - GLS Newnham
1959 0311 004 Bradley Hill WAIT Samuel SO U 20 Iron Miner GLS East Dean
1959 0311 004 Bradley Hill WAIT Adelaide DA U 12 - GLS East Dean
1959 0311 004 Bradley Hill WAIT Sarah DA U 14 - GLS East Dean
1959 0311 004 Bradley Hill WAIT Joseph SO U 3 - GLS East Dean

Mike

Maria JAMES 1866 Ayleford / Soudley

by shepway @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:45 (6341 days ago) @ shepway

Marriage now found on this site:
record_id 13664
Entry Number 193
Year 1856
Month May
Day 2
Groom Surname JAMES
Groom Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Age at Marriage 20
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession miner
Groom Residence Newnham
Groom Father's Surname James
Groom Father's Forename(s) Richard
Groom Father's Rank or Profession miner
Bride Surname WAIT
Bride Forename(s) Sarah
Bride Age at Marriage 20
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Newnham
Bride Father's Surname Wait
Bride Father's Forename(s) Samuel
Bride Father's Rank or Profession labourer
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of Samuel Wait
Witness 2 mark of Charlotte Bedney
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister E.C. Brice perp.curate
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes Newnham centred in box
Register Reference P228 IN 1/13
Page No 97
Parish/Chapel Newnham

Mike

Maria JAMES 1866 Ayleford / Soudley

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 12:01 (6341 days ago) @ shepway

BAPTISM FOR THOMAS?

record-id 111947
Entry Number 797
Year 1836
Month November
Day 27
Parents Surname JAMES
Child Forename THOMAS
Father's Forename Richard
Mother's Forename Ann
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Eaves
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister H(enr)y Poole Minister
Event Type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P245 in 1/9
Page No 100
Parish/Chapel Parkend

Maria & Co

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 13:00 (6341 days ago) @ ChrisW

I was inputting Emily's burial but it's already been posted.
This board is red hot tonight!

Maria & Co

by JSannwald @, Saturday, July 21, 2007, 05:06 (6337 days ago) @ ChrisW

Thanks for all the info, some I had managed to find, others hadn't shown up in my search, just the way the database was working for me I think. Am now interested to find any descendants / links to the James children that survived - descendants of Maria and Beatrice and Maria's brother Samuel who I believe married Gertrude Read in 1896.

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