William ROBERTS 1824 & Ann (General)

by jimashton , Tuesday, October 02, 2007, 03:07 (6264 days ago)

I have started a new thread to avoid confusion, but it is very much linked to :
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=1448
In the linked thread, it is noted that William Roberts 1824 who marries Ann has 8 children, including Maria, which makes a link to the Watkins family through her marriage to Sidney George Watkins. Elizabeth Ann marries John Frederick Whittington and links back to the Read & Marfell families. Mary Ann marries James Read son of Richard Read & Fanny Dubberley – I have this certificate. Sarah Ann marries Josiah/Joseph Jones and gives me a link with Gill. The William 1824 that starts this off I have as the son of William Roberts 1793 & Ann Barnard 1790 who married Newland 3.9.1821.

I have now been in email correspondence with a person who is connected to Ann Roberts 1835, daughter of William Roberts 1793 & Ann Barnard 1790. My email correspondent thinks that the William Roberts 1824, son of the same William Roberts 1793 & Ann Barnard 1790 actually marries Susan Roberts 21.8.1847. This marriage has the parents of William & Susan Roberts as William Roberts – there were lots of them. The main reason for coming to this conclusion is that William Roberts 1793 & Ann Barnard 1790 had a son James 1827 who married Harriett Bayliss 9.10.1852 with witnesses William & Susan Roberts. The witnesses at the marriage between William Roberts & Susan Roberts were John Roberts & Eliyd Roberts. Susan Roberts is from Brecon and the second witness is “Welsh” sounding. I actually have William & Susan Roberts in my family tree as one of their 9 children – Lucy married Osman Meek, who is related to me. The Census for William & Susan Roberts are:

1851 Census
ROBERTS William 27 Iron Miner Forest of Dean
Susanna 25 Brecon
Eliza 2 East Dean

1861 Census West Dean
William Roberts 37 Miner Plump Hill
Susan 34 Brecon
Eliza 12 Stenders, East Dean
Jane 8 Stenders, East Dean
Emma 6 Stenders, East Dean
George 5 Stenders, East Dean
William 3 Stenders, East Dean
Joseph 2 Stenders, East Dean
Thomas 7 mths Stenders, East Dean

1871 Census East Dean
William Roberts 45 Iron Miner East Dean
Susan 44 East Dean
Jane 18 East Dean
Emma 16 East Dean
George 15 East Dean
William 13 Imbecile East Dean
Joseph 12 East Dean
Frederick 7 East Dean
Lucy 4 East Dean

I have no marriage details for William & Ann, which must have been around 1850/51 judging by their first child Thomas being born 1852. And by the Census data that slowhands has found

So to conclude, either way, I have them in my family tree, but obviously I want to get it right. And my correspondent’s version breaks my “related” link to the Watkins family.

Can anyone help please?

Jim Ashton