William Holder born Lea 1868

I wondered if anyone could help me on this one. I am trying to find out what happened to William Holder who married Eliza Ann Jenkins in the March quarter of 1867 Abergavenny district (Bedwelty/Tredegar)

From the 1871 census they were living at the Black Prince Inn Tredegar.
William Holder 40 Inn Keeper born Cleeve
Eliza A. Holder wife 30 born Bedwelty, Mons
Amelia J.D. Holder dau 8 born Beckford Glos
William Holder son 3 born Lea Glos
Edith Holder dau 3 months born Bedwelty, Mons.

I have found the baptism of William Holder in 1868 at Lea on the FOD website.

I cannot find the baptism of Amelia J D Holder in Beckford

I have William Holder 1868 on the 1881 census of Chepstow as a boarder at the Belle Vue House School.

I think that I have Amelia Holder, a governess, with her grandmother Harriet Dudfield at Fleet Lane, Twining Glos on the 1881 census.

I cannot find any of the others on the 1881 census nor can I find any deaths for Eliza Ann or William Holder senior. I also cannot find a baptism for William Holder senior at Cleeve, Glos.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
thank you
Diana

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1891 Devon Villa, Caerau Road (?) Newport
David Phillips abt 1841 Swindon Head St Woollos Monmouthshire Rtd Hotel Keeper
Ernest P Phillips abt 1881 Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Son St Woollos Monmouthshire
Edvin Holder abt 1871 Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Granddaughter St Woollos Monmouthshire
William Holder abt 1868 Lea, Herefordshire, England Stepson St Woollos Monmouthshire

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Dear Slowhands,

thank you so much. It looks like Eliza Anne married again whenever William died.

Any chance of the 1901?

thanks again
Diana

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Dear Slow hands.

Could you give me the address of the one you found in 1891 please

Thanks
Diana

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updated

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From FreeBMD:
Marriages Jun 1877
HOLDER Eliza Ann Bedwelty 11a 113
PHILLIPS David Bedwelty 11a 113

Deaths Mar 1876
Holder William I 53 Bedwelty 11a 61

1881 Census:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
David Powell PHILLIPS Head M Male 41 Swindon, Wiltshire, England Licenced Victualler
Eliza Ann PHILLIPS Wife M Female 40 Tredegar, Monmouth, England
Emily J. PHILLIPS Daur Female 11 Newport, Monmouth, England Scholar
Edith H. PHILLIPS Daur Female 10 Tredegar, Monmouth, England Scholar
Minnie PHILLIPS Daur Female 9 Rhumney, Monmouth, England Scholar
Ernest P. PHILLIPS Son Male 3 m Newport, Monmouth, England
Elizabeth CAMERON Visitor U Female 20 London, London, Middlesex, England Visitor
Elizabeth PALMER Serv U Female 20 Hereford, Hereford, England Barmaid (Inn Servt)
Annie M. ENTIRE Serv U Female 20 Ireland Housemaid Domestic
Mary Jane POWELL Serv U Female 20 Usk, Monmouth, England Barmaid (Inn)
Beatrice E. DAVIES Serv U Female 14 Ebbw Vale, Monmouth, England Nurse Maid
Sarah JENKINS Serv U Female 22 Hoareworthy, Hereford, England Cook Domestic S
John STEPHENS Serv U Male 16 Newport, Monmouth, England Pot Boy Domestic (Inn Serv)

Source Information:
Dwelling 35 Watch House Parade Alexandra Dock Hotel
Census Place St Woollos, Monmouth, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342266
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5264 / 25
Page Number 43

FreeBMD:
Deaths Sep 1899
Phillips David Powell 59 Newport M 11a 124

Mike

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Dear Mike,

thank you so much that is brilliant. I had found the death of William I Holder and discounted it because of the I in the middle. However given that Eliza Ann married again in 1877 it all looks correct. Thank you for the 1881 - another Victualler!

Thank you again

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From FreeBMD:
Deaths Jun 1888
PHILLIPS Eliza Ann 47 Newport M 11a 120

Births Dec 1862
HOLDER Emilia Jane Dudfield Winchcomb 6a 358

Marriages Jun 1905
CURTIS Frank Robert Oxford 3a 1819
HOLDER Amelia Jane D Oxford 3a 1819
Lees Thomas Oxford 3a 1819
WEST Susan Annie Oxford 3a 1819

Amelia is a Housekeeper at the Prince of Wales Hotel, Scarborough in 1901.

No guarantee that Amelia married Frank CURTIS but:
Births Jun 1870
Curtis Frank Robert Abingdon 2c 292

Marriages Jun 1897
Bascombe Bessie Mary A Abingdon 2c 632
Curtis Frank Robert Abingdon 2c 632

Deaths Dec 1900
Curtis Bessie Mary A 29 Abingdon 2c 169

Frank Robert CURTIS is a Widower and living with parents in 1901 at North Lodge, Botley, Abingdon.

Mike

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Dear Mike,

thank you so much for giving me all that information. I will try now to put it all into context within the family. You never know I may find a living relative from my Jenkins side which I have not done so far. Nor from most other sides either. Perhaps my family are just not interested in their history!

thank you again
Diana

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Dear Mike,

Again my thanks for all you have sent to me - I will try to sort it all out now

Diana

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<as transcribed !>
JAMES DUDFIELD
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Event(s):
Birth: 08 JAN 1798 Twining, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM DUDFIELD
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C032621 1767 - 1812 0427795 Film 6911818 Film
Sheet: 00

1841
James Dalglux abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
Harriett Dulglux abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
Ann Dulglux abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
Emealea Dulglux abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
Martin Dulglux abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
Noah Dulglux abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
Walter Dulglux abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire
William Dulglux abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Twining Gloucestershire

1851
James Dudfieldabt 1795 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Head Twyning Gloucestershire
Harriet Dudfield abt 1805 Feckenham, Worcestershire, England Wife Twyning Gloucestershire
Amelia Dudfield abt 1833 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twyning Gloucestershire
Deborah Dudfield abt 1846 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twyning Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Dudfield abt 1843 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Twyning Gloucestershire
Martin Thomas Dudfield abt 1837 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Son Twyning Gloucestershire
Noah Samuel Dudfield abt 1839 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Son Twyning Gloucestershire
Walter James Dudfield abt 1835 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Son Twyning Gloucestershire
William John Dudfield abt 1829 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Son Twyning Gloucestershire

1851
Ann Dudfield abt 1831 Turming, Gloucestershire, England Servant Cheltenham Gloucestershire

John Holder

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Marriages:
Spouse: Phebe Booth
Marriage: 30 MAY 1829 St Mary-De-Lode'S, Gloucester, Gloucester, England
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I038303

1841
John Holder abt 1777 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Phoebe Holder abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Ann Holder abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Charles Holder abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Holder abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Emma Holder abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Jane Holder abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
Joseph Holder abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire
William Holder abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire

1851
William Holder abt 1830 Bishops Cleeve, Gloucestershire, England Servant Stanway Gloucestershire

Name: Anne Dudfield
Name: William Holder
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Tewkesbury
County: Gloucestershire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 681

1861
William Holder abt 1832 Bishops Cleeve, Gloucestershire, England Head Beckford Gloucestershire
Ann Holder abt 1833 Twyning, Gloucestershire, England Wife Beckford Gloucestershire

Name: Emilia Jane Dudfield Holder
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Winchcomb
County: Gloucestershire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 358

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Dear Slow hands,

thank you very much indeed for all your help on this one. I am sorting it all out and trying to get my head around it all.

thanks again
Diana

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Dear Slowhands and Mike,

I just wanted to say a big thank you for helping me sort out that generation of my family, I am very grateful for all your time and help

with best wishes
Diana

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