PARADISE Lost! (General)

by unknown, Friday, October 26, 2007, 14:00 (6240 days ago)

Can anyone help with info on a Emily Paradise who appears on the 1871 census
living in Hanley staffs but born in West Dean 1864 (states Yorkley on a later census), with her sister Harriet and parents William and Rhoda, all from Forest of Dean.

My problem.....there are no baptisim records I can find for Emily or Harriet nor a record of marriage between a William Paradise and Rhoda.

Is there anywhere I am not looking.
Tried BMD index and this websites brilliant parish records with no luck.

Paradise Lost!

by Don Cameron @, Friday, October 26, 2007, 17:50 (6240 days ago) @ unknown

I know this might sound stupid, but have you looked on the IGI?

Paradise Lost!

by unknown, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 07:13 (6239 days ago) @ Don Cameron

Yes we have - but thank you anyway.

William PARADISE 1843 Oldcroft / Yorkley

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 26, 2007, 22:13 (6240 days ago) @ unknown

1841
Edwin Paradise abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire
Henry Paradise abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire


Name:Sarah Griffiths
Name: Edwyn Paradise
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 593

Year 1843
Month Dec
Day 17

Parents Surname PARADISE
Child Forename(s) William
Father's Forename(s) Edwin
Mother's Forename(s) Sarah
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Old Croft
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister C Brooks Gaunt
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P50 IN1/1
Page No 194
Parish/Chapel Blakeney


1851
Edwin Paradise abt 1819 Bickley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Paradise abt 1820 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles Paradise abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Edwin Paradise abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
George Paradise abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Hannah Paradise abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
William Paradiseabt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire


1861
Edwin Parradese abt 1819 Blakeney Ph of Awr, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Parradese abt 1820 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
George Parradese abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Hannah Parradese abt 1847 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Parradese abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
William Parradese abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire


1871
Edwin Parradiae abt 1822 Berkley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Parradiae abt 1821 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles E Parradiae abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
William Parradiae abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire


1881
William Paradise abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Awre Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Paradise abt 1861 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Awre Gloucestershire

1891
William Paradise abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Paradise abt 1861 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Emily M Paradise abt 1889 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Florence E Paradise abt 1883 Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Frederick J Paradise abt 1885 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1901
William Paradise abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Paradise abt 1861 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Maud Paradise abt 1890 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire

William PARADISE 1843 Oldcroft / Yorkley

by unknown, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 07:13 (6239 days ago) @ slowhands

I believe this is my Willliams cousin

Edwin PARADISE 1821 Berkeley / Bristol

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 22:32 (6239 days ago) @ slowhands

NAME: Edwin Paradise BAPTISED: 11 Mar 1821 at Berkeley

MOTHER: Mary
OCCUPATION: Labourer ABODE: Berkeley

William PARADISE 1843 Oldcroft / Yorkley

by Shearm, Thursday, May 21, 2009, 08:27 (5667 days ago) @ slowhands

So surprised to find my family here, this is my Great grandfather, my grandfather Frederick John died in his twenties when my father was eighteen months old. My grandmother married again to Gomer Cox of I think Parkend

William PARADISE 1843 Viney Hill / Awre

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 26, 2007, 22:15 (6240 days ago) @ unknown

1841 ?
Edwin Paradise abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire
Henry Paradise abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire

Name: Harriet Hawkins
Name: Henry Paradise
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 593


1851
Henry Paradise abt 1817 Birstol, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriett Paradise abt 1817 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Ann Paradise abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriett Paradise abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Paradise abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
William Paradise abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1861
Henry Paradise abt 1817 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire
Harriot Paradise abt 1818 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Ann Paradise abt 1849 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Henry Paradise abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Phebe Paradise abt 1856 West Dean; Awre, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Tom Paradise abt 1845 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Walter Paradise abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
William Paradise abt 1843 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire


1871
William Paradise abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Hanley Staffordshire
Rhoda Paradise abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Hanley Staffordshire
Emma Paradise abt 1864 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire
Harriet Paradise abt 1867 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire

William PARADISE 1843 Viney Hill / Awre

by unknown, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 07:12 (6239 days ago) @ slowhands

this is the family, thank you - if they are 'non conformist' are the records elsewhere?

Henry PARADISE 1818 Berkeley / Bristol

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 22:28 (6239 days ago) @ slowhands

HENRY PARADISE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 OCT 1818 Berkeley, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: GEORGE PARADISE
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
-----------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C016484 1813 - 1821 0855613 Film 6900585 Film
Sheet: 00

Paradise Lost!

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 26, 2007, 23:31 (6240 days ago) @ unknown

My problem.....there are no baptisim records I can find for Emily or Harriet nor a record of marriage between a William Paradise and Rhoda.

Can indicate you have a Non conformist family

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by llangrove, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 13:59 (6239 days ago) @ unknown

Any connection to Mary Paradise, b.1812 or her sister Ann Sophia Paradise, b.1814, near Berkeley? I don't know their parents names......yet! Thanks!

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by unknown, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 14:08 (6239 days ago) @ llangrove

I honestly don't know at the moment. There may be a connection there - will keep searching.

Paradise Lost! - Berkeley

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 21:23 (6239 days ago) @ llangrove

from IGI and Scribes Alcove :-

( George was a Mariner , so links to Awre/Blakeney/Lydney a possibility)

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Ann Paradise
------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 MAY 1813 Berkeley, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: George Paradise
Mother: Mary Paradise
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I020645 Film
Sheet:

Paradise Lost! - Berkeley

by unknown, Sunday, October 28, 2007, 07:25 (6238 days ago) @ slowhands

I believe that my Henry Paradise bn 1817 is the son of George and Mary.
So thank you.

Paradise Lost! - Berkeley

by unknown, Sunday, October 28, 2007, 09:02 (6238 days ago) @ unknown

and that Edwin is another sibling (son of George and Mary Paradise).

It is so good to be able to continue the family line further back but frustrating to get so stuck with baptisim for Emily Paradise abt 1864 and the marriage of her parents William and Rhoda.

are Non-conformists recorded anywhere???

Paradise Lost! - Berkeley

by llangrove, Sunday, October 28, 2007, 09:44 (6238 days ago) @ unknown

Do you have a list of George and Mary Paradise's children? I think it may be their daughter Mary, who married a Thomas Hawkins b.@ 1797, on 14 March 1829 in Awre. Thanks!

see... http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=5928

Paradise Lost! - Berkeley

by unknown, Sunday, October 28, 2007, 10:46 (6238 days ago) @ llangrove

no sorry - only what I've managed to piece together from IGI and this topic info.
I am pretty sure that Henry bn 1818 (Berkeley) and Edwin bn 1821 both are and it looks like Ann bn 1813 is too - and I'm sure there are more out there.

The same names crop up though I am finding - because Henry (mentioned above)
married a Harriet Hawkins bn abt 1817 in West Dean area and her parents were William and Mary Hawkins.

PARADISE Lost!

by cambria, Saturday, February 25, 2017, 22:47 (2830 days ago) @ unknown

Emily Paradise was born Rhoda Emma Hawkins on 20 Dec 1863 in Yorkley, West Dean. Her father was William Hawkins, collier, mother Rhoda Hawkins, formerly Jones. Her birth was registered in the district of Coleford on 9 Jan 1864.
As Emily Paradise, She marries William Stevens on 5 March 1887 by banns in Rodmarton, Glos. and she dies on 19 dec 1953 in Wroughton Wiltshire.

Harriet, her sister was born on 30 Oct 1866 in Yorkley to the same parents. Probate records show she died as Harriet Rhoda Hawkins on 2 feb 1943 in London

Their father, William Henry Hawkins was beptised in Blakeney on 16 Oct 1842. Only his mother, Harriet Hawkins, spinster is listed. No father named. Abode is Viney Hill. Harriet Hawkins later marries Henry Paradise in May 1843, and from then on, William appears to use both the surname Hawkins and Paradise.

As William Hawkings, aged 20, batchelor, he married Rhoda Jones, 20 by banns at St Mary's Church in the Parish of Lydney on the 14 Dec 1862. His father is named as William Hawkings (the same name as his grandfather), collier, and her father is William Jones, collier. Witnesses are Thomas Paradise and Rosatta Worgan.

The 1871 census, shows the Paradise family living in Hanley staffordshire, but I can't find any record of the family in 1881, and William and Rhoda seem to vanish after that date

I hope this helps

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