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I am looking for the siblings of my Grandfather. He is Sydney Charles Goode born in 1885 His father was Amos Goode b c1860 and his mother Sarah Bennett married in 1877. Having checked census returns for 1891 I can find no trace of the family after their marriage although I can find the registration of Sydney's marriage to Alice Maud Annetts in 1909 both at that time living in Steam Mills. In the mid 1920's they moved to Yorkshire. Is it possible someone has the information I'm looking for. I would be most grateful for any help.

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1841
Thomas Goode abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
Lydia Goode abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
Charles Goode abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
Comfort Goode abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
George Goode abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
Hannah Goode abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
Thomas Goode abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire

1851 Gloucester Rd
Thomas Goode abt 1807 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Head Abinghall Gloucestershire Carrier
Lydia Goode abt 1806 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abinghall Gloucestershire
Alice Goode abt 1845 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire
Charles Goode abt 1835 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
Comfort Goode abt 1839 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire
George Goode abt 1828 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
Hannah Goode abt 1832 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire

Year 1854
Month May
Day 4

Groom Surname GOOD
Groom Forename(s) George
Groom Age at Marriage 26
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Labourer
Groom Residence Eat Dean
Groom Father's Surname Good
Groom Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Carrier

Bride Surname PENN
Bride Forename(s) Sarah
Bride Age at Marriage 28
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession Servant
Bride Residence Lydbrook
Bride Father's Surname Penn
Bride Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Blacksmith

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both Signed
Witness 1 George Newling
Witness 2 Hannah Newling
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister Henry G. Nicolls
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/6
Page No 71
Parish/Chapel Drybrook

1861Flaxley Gloucestershire
George Goode abt 1828 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Sarah Goode abt 1827 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife
Amos Goode abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son
Charles Goode abt 1860 Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England Son
Jane Goode abt 1850 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter
Thomas Goode abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son

1871 Flaxley Gloucestershire
George Goode abt 1829 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Sarah Goode abt 1827 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife
Amos Goode abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son
Charles Goode abt 1860 Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England Son
James Goode abt 1862 Flaxley, Gloucestershire, England Son
Thomas Goode abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son

1881 Cinderford
Amos Goode abt 1858 Cinderford (East Dean), Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxley Gloucestershire
Sarah H. Goode abt 1859 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxley Gloucestershire
Alice Goode Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxley Gloucestershire

1891
Amos Goode abt 1858 East Dean Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Goode abt 1859 East Dean Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Alice Goode abt 1881 East Dean Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Florence Maud Goode abt 1890 East Dean Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
George Markell Goode abt 1888 East Dean Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Harriett Ann Goode abt 1883 Flaxley Mund, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Stidney Clester Goode abt 1886 East Dean Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1901
Amos Goode abt 1858 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Goode abt 1859 Steam Mills, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Clara Matilda Goode abt 1895 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Florence Maud Goode abt 1891 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
George Maskel Goode abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Ann Goode abt 1883 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Sidney Charles Goode abt 1886 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

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< may be relatd to AMOS & GEORGE but not directly>

1841 ?
John Goode abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire
Hannah Goode abt 1797 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire
Charlott Goode abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire
Fanny Goode abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire
George Goode abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Goode abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire
William Goode abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean Gloucestershire

1851?
George Goode abt 1830 Micheldever, Gloucestershire, England Brother Fownhope Herefordshire

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Year 1827
Month Jun
Day 4

Groom Surname GOODE
Groom Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Batchelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence Longhope
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname ATTWOOD
Bride Forename(s) Lydia
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Longhope
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark He signs she marks
Witness 1 Mark of Joseph [?] Goode
Witness 2 Mark of Sarah Attwood [?]
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister John Evans Officiating Minister
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P206 IN 1/6
Page No 17
Parish/Chapel Longhope

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Year 1877
Month Dec
Day 25

Groom Surname GOODE
Groom Forename(s) Amos
Groom Age at Marriage 19
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Coal Miner
Groom Residence Bilson
Groom Father's Surname Goode
Groom Father's Forename(s) George
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Coal Miner

Bride Surname BENNETT
Bride Forename(s) Sarah Ann
Bride Age at Marriage 19
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence Bilson
Bride Father's Surname Bennett (deceased)
Bride Father's Forename(s) Samuel
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Coal Miner

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns [not stated]
Signature or Mark He signs she marks
Witness 1 Mark of William Bennett
Witness 2 Mary Morris
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister William Barker Vicar
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/7
Page No 145
Parish/Chapel Drybrook

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Slowhands

Brilliant as ever, the information in your reply has connected two people already in my Family tree. Although I cannot help Tony with more information, I do have Sidney Charles Goode in my family tree as a "connected" rather than a related person; Amos Goode's parents were George Goode & Sarah Ann Penn. I believe that Sarah Ann Penn gave birth to an illegitimate daughter Sarah Jane Penn 10.5.1850 in Union Workhouse Ross, this Sarah Jane married John Colwell 8.10.1844, St Nicholas Church Gloucester, their daughter Kate married James Walter Hillman 26.12.1898 Cinderford and their daughter Edith Lilian married someone who is a relative, but we are now getting toward more recent times and I will stop being specific. However, any confirmation from slowhands regarding the earlier information concerning Sarah Ann and Sarah Jane Penn would be appreciated.
The other person in my tree that slowhands has connected is; John Annetts 1853 brother George 1844 married Sarah Cinderey, daughter of George Cinderey & Elizabeth Wilkes. Sarah Cinderey's brother George married Abiah Marfell, and her brother John married Elizabeth Brain, daughter of Simeon Brain & Ann Marfell.

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Jim

I had my suspicions over George Markel Goode - was that Marfell by any chance ??

The BMD transcription is :-

Name: George Maskell Goode
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 261

regards
S

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Hi Slowhands

I too had wondered about this, but cannot find a Marfell connection, but thanks for the thought. Any help you can give regarding Sarah Ann & Sarah Jane Penn would be very much appreciated. The fact that Kate Colwell's parents had turned out to be John Colwell & Sarah Jane Penn had completely altered a very good Family History friend's lineage. The scepticism we have is that there is 4 years between the illegitimate birth of Sarah Jane Penn 10.5.1850 in Union Workhouse and her marriage to George Goode 4.5.1854, yet he is shown as the father.

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http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=6519#p6530

< would expect Ross/Ruardean Workhouse to support >

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Jim

This family needs more work but maybe it ties in...
< but would expect Westbury Workhouse rather than Ross/Ruardean>

Year 1826
Month Dec
Day 6

Groom Surname PENN
Groom Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Age at Marriage [not stated]
Groom condition [not stated]
Groom Rank or Profession [not stated]
Groom Residence Newnham in the County of Gloucester
Groom Father's Surname [not stated]
Groom Father's Forename(s) [not stated]
Groom Father's Rank or Profession [not stated]

Bride Surname SIMS
Bride Forename(s) Sarah
Bride Age at Marriage [not stated]
Bride Condition [not stated]
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence Awre
Bride Father's Surname [not stated]
Bride Father's Forename(s) [not stated]
Bride Father's Rank or Profession [not stated]

Licence or Banns Licence
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both Sign
Witness 1 Joseph Stiff[?]
Witness 2 Elizabeth Sims
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister J. H. Malpas Vicar
Event type Marriage
Memoranda with Consent of Parents
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P30 IN 1/5
Page No 52

1841 Blakeney
Sarah Penn abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire
George Penn abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Awre Gloucestershire

1841 Old Furnace
Sarah Penn abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1851
Sarah Penn abt 1804 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Widow Etloe Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Penn abt 1830 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Etloe Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1836 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Son Etloe Gloucestershire

brother Thomas

1861
Thomas J Penn abt 1836 Avre, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester St Michael Gloucestershire
Anna E Penn abt 1835 Gloster, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester St Michael Gloucestershire
Caroline Gittins abt 1819 London City Sister-in-law Gloucester St Michael Gloucestershire
Harriet A J Gittins abt 1825 Gloster, Gloucestershire, England Sister-in-law Gloucester St Michael Gloucestershire

later brother George

1871
Geo Wm Penn abt 1833 Awre P, Gloucestershire, England Head Friern Barnet Middlesex
Annie Penn abt 1834 Islington, Middlesex, England Wife Friern Barnet Middlesex
Annie Gertrude Penn abt 1864 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Daughter Friern Barnet Middlesex
Celia Mary Penn abt 1870 Southgate, Middlesex, England Daughter Friern Barnet Middlesex
Chas Frank Penn abt 1866 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son Friern Barnet Middlesex
Geo Wm Penn abt 1862 Stoke Newington, Middlesex, England Son Friern Barnet Middlesex

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Hi Slowhands

Thanks very much for the information. I have checked out the 1851 Census for widow Sarah Penn and see that there are members of the Sims family with her and next door. However, I tend towards your Thomas Penn & Mary as per the link in your other reply. To tie in with this, I found a marriage for Thomas Penn & Mary Mabe on the F o D web site 30.4.1820 Much Marcle, plus a baptism for Sarah Penn 1.3.1825 Walford, which fits more closely with the information we already have.

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I wish I could pin Sarah from Walford down in 1851, there is a Sarah PENN from Walford as a Servant at an Inn in Ross, aged 34 (?) could be 24

1851
Sarah Penn abt 1817 Dalfrod, Herefordshire, England Servant Ross Herefordshire

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Hi Slowhands

Thanks for the info, this could be her but by 1851 she had her illegitimate daughter Sarah Jane Penn born 10.5.1850 in Union Workhouse Ross, I wonder where she was? Perhaps she was still in the workhouse - do you know how to access their records ?

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Name: Sarah Jane Penn Penn
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Ross
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 26
Page: 254

Is this mother's younger sister Jane ?

1851 Ross Workhouse
Jane Penn abt 1835 Pencoyd, Herefordshire, England Pauper Ross Herefordshire
<Pencraig nr Goodrich, just across river from Walford perhaps >

no sign of the baby

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Hi Slowhands

If Sarah Ann is the daughter of Thomas Penn & Mary Mabe (I know for sure, her father was Thomas), she would have had a sister Jane who was born in 1838 according to the 1841 Census :

1841 Bishopwood - Ruardean area
Thos Penn abt 1801 Ruardean
Mary Penn abt 1801 Ruardean
Ann Penn abt 1821 Ruardean
Thomas Penn abt 1825 Ruardean
Sarah Penn abt 1829 Ruardean
Amos Penn abt 1830 Ruardean
William Penn abt 1832 Ruardean
Edwin Penn abt 1834 Ruardean
James Penn abt 1836 Ruardean
Jane Penn abt 1838 Ruardean

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Year 1909
Month Dec
Day 25

Groom Surname GOODE
Groom Forename(s) Sidney Charles
Groom Age at Marriage 24
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Steam Mills
Groom Father's Surname Goode
Groom Father's Forename(s) Amos
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Bride Surname ANNETTS
Bride Forename(s) Alice Maud
Bride Age at Marriage 21
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence Steam Mills
Bride Father's Surname Annetts
Bride Father's Forename(s) John
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Engine driver

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns [not stated]
Signature or Mark both sign
Witness 1 John Annetts
Witness 2 Clara Goode
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister James Lawton Vicar
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/9
Page No 118
Parish/Chapel Drybrook

1901
John Annetts abt 1853 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Francis E Annetts abt 1854 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Albert Annetts abt 1876 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Edward Annetts abt 1886 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Annetts abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Annetts abt 1884 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Joseph Annetts abt 1894 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Mabel Annetts abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Maud Annetts abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Sidney George Annetts abt 1892 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Fred Annetts abt 1882 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1891
John Annette abt 1852 Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Frances E Annette Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Albert J Annette J abt 1876 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Alice M Annette abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Bertha Annette abt 1878 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Edward G Annette abt 1886 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Florence M Annette abt 1888 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Frances J Annette abt 1884 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas F Annette abt 1882 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William H Annetteabt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Name: Alice Maud Annetta
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 249

1881 Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
John Annetts abt 1853 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Francis E. Annetts abt 1853 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Wife
Albert J. Annetts abt 1876 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son
Bertha Annetts abt 1878 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Burnice M. Annetts abt 1874 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter
Wm. H. Annetts abt 1880 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son

1871
Pheobe Annett abt 1812 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
John Annett abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1861
Phebe Annetts abt 1812 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
George Annetts abt 1844 Morse Lane, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Annetts abt 1846 Crooked End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
John Annetts abt 1853 Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Phebe H Annetts Phebe abt 1847 Woodside, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Dobbs abt 1834 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Lodger East Dean Gloucestershire

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1851
George Annetts abt 1807 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Phoebe Annetts abt 1812 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Amelia Annetts abt 1842 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
George Annetts abt 1844 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
James Annetts abt 1849 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Annetts abt 1846 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Annetts abt 1839 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Phoebe Annetts abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Annetts abt 1837 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
William Annetts abt 1833 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1841 Ruardean Hill
Geoe Annette abt 1809 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Phebe Annette abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Amelia Annette abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
John Annette abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Mary Annette abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Sarah Annette abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Wm Annette abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

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Name: Florence Maud Goode
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 223

Year 1913
Month May
Day 12

Groom Surname KIBBLE
Groom Forename(s) William Henry
Groom Age at Marriage 19
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Ruspidge
Groom Father's Surname Kibble
Groom Father's Forename(s) Charles
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Bride Surname GOODE
Bride Forename(s) Florence Maude Mary
Bride Age at Marriage 22
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence Steam Mills
Bride Father's Surname Goode
Bride Father's Forename(s) Amos
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both Sign
Witness 1 Amos Goode
Witness 2 Florence Maud Kibble
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister R J Hawkesworth Curate
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/6
Page No 133
Parish/Chapel Cinderford St Johns

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