Alice KNIGHT born 1876, Newnham (General)

by helenium235 @, Gloucester, Saturday, November 24, 2007, 10:47 (6211 days ago)

I am trying to sort out the forebears of ALICE KNIGHT.

I have a Certificate of Registry of Birth for Alice. She was born on 4th August 1876. The Cert is dated 7 September 1876 and states place of birth as Newnham. I have a Certificate of Marriage dated 7th October 1899. She married Arthur Paish, later a Gloucestershire cricketer, at St John the Evangelist, Clifton, Britol. Age is 23 yrs. Father, Thomas Knight's profession is stated as 'Engine Driver'.

The problem is this:-

I have an Alice Knight born on 27th August 1876 to Thomas and Harriet Knight of St White's FODFH rec_id 75600 entry 1218. However, I also have Thomas Knight's burial rec_id 55147 on 27 May 1876 several weeks before Alice's birth. Although Thomas was a railway footplateman, I would have expected a (Deceased) on the marriage certificate. So near yet so far?

Further complication:-

I have a Tom Knight and Mary Ann Manns married 28th February 1870 in Newnham FODFH rec_id 13879 entry 408. They raised a family in Newnham. They move to Cardiff. There is no entry in the 1881 Census for an 'Alice', just a significant(?) gap in the records for Roath in Cardiff. By the 1891 Census Alice was probably in Domestic Service in Bristol; she was working in Bristol before the wedding! Tom also became a railwayman and lived out his later life in Cardiff and would probably have been at the wedding; he was buried in Newnham in 1929.

Any guidance greatfully accepted.

Alice KNIGHT 1876 St Whites / Cinderford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, November 24, 2007, 11:03 (6211 days ago) @ helenium235

I think you have the correct ( and only) Alice
confusion over districts and Baptism and Birth :-

In the Registration district of Westbury on Severn
( sub district Newnham)

Baptism ( not Birth )

Year 1876
Month Aug
Day 27

Parents Surname KNIGHT
Child Forename(s) Alice
Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Mother's Forename(s) Harriet
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence St.Whites
Occupation Brakesman
Officiating Minister G.A.Allan
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/2
Page No 153
Parish/Chapel Cinderford St Johns

1871
Thomas Knight abt 1826 Little Dean Hill, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Knight abt 1835 Bridstow, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Evan Knight abt 1870 St Whity Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Fredrick Knight abt 1859 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Hallin Knight abt 1868 St Whity Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Knight abt 1856 St Whity Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Miriam Knight abt 1860 St Whity Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Rosa Knight abt 1865 St Whity Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Knight abt 1864 St Whity Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1881
Harriet Knight abt 1834 Bridstone, Hereford, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Agness Knight abt 1873 St Whites Cinderford Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Allen Knight abt 1868 St Whites Cinderford Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Allice Knight abt 1876 St Whites Cinderford Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Evan Knight abt 1870 St Whites Cinderford Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Frederick Knight abt 1853 St Whites Cinderford Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Knight abt 1874 St Whites Cinderford Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Knight abt 1864 St Whites Cinderford Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean Gloucestershire


1891
Alice Knight abt 1875 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Servant Cheltenham Gloucestershire

Alice KNIGHT 1876 St Whites / Cinderford

by helenium235 @, Gloucester, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 01:02 (6211 days ago) @ slowhands

Thanks for that. Confusion was that Cinderford birth would be registered at Newnham where there were several other families of Knights.

Can get on with sorting out the Turners and Meeks at Harry Hill and the Hills of Aston Ingham now ;-)

Regards,
A Johns of Monmouth descent!

Alice KNIGHT 1876 St Whites / Cinderford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 03:36 (6211 days ago) @ helenium235

What with Parish boundaries, registration districts , sub-districts, its a wonder we ever manage to track'em down !

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