ASTON family

Hi A lot of our ancestors were miners in the Forest - can we find out if they were Freeminers?

James Aston b Oct 1825 Ruardean
Edward Aston b 26 Sept 1784 Birth Reg Newland but living in Coleford
Thomas Aston c 11 Dec 1747 Newland
Edward Aston c 15 May 1721 Newland (but living in COleford)
Edward Aston c 11 Jul 1681 Newland
Philip Aston b 1665 Newland?

And is it possible to find out if they were involved in any mining accidents?

I think your website is wonderful - I wouldn't have found any of these ancestors without you ...

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..name.........age............living........reg....number
James Aston approx 1826 Edge End Coleford 2/1/1875 1404
Edward Aston approx 1788 Lane End Coleford 13/10/1838 778
Thomas Aston ?
Edward Aston ?
Edward Aston ?
Philip Aston ?

I suspect your others predate Freeminer registration in 1838

a Thomas ASTON approx 1824 was involved in an accident in Wimbrow - 4/8/1852
another Thomas approx 1844 on 12/1/1877 in Ellwood Green

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Hi Slowhands

Thank you for that info - I'm also trying to confirm the parents of Edward Aston (possibly christened in Newland 15 May 1721 and married Patient in 1744). I understand the early Newland registers suffered from rats but you referred in Aug to an Index of Baptisms, Marriage and Burials 1670-1799 made in 18th and 19th centuries. Are these on the Forest website? or are you able to tell me where to find them? That would be a great help ... Best wishes Carolyn

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I have Astons in my tree and have parents for a 1721 Edward as Edward & Sarah.
Edward bapt 1681 son of Philip & Maria. My line is via Richard Aston & Susan Evans

Your 2nd point was James 1825 son of Edward, he was son of Edward Aston & Susan Jones, who married Jane Smith daughter of James Smith & Sarah (have been unable to find a marriage not listed in the GFHS marriage index, so could be Monmouth. James is son of Henry Smith & Jane Evans.

I hope this helps,

Gill Webb

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Hi Gill

Thanks for the information and I'm very pleased to hear from a descendant of Richard Aston and Susan. I suspected that Edward (1681) and Sarah might be the parents of Edward (1721)(Dad of your Richard and our Thomas) but I can't find any birth details for Edward (1721) - there doesn't seem to be any records of his birth at Newland but he might have been eaten by the rats!

I don't know much about Richard's descendants other than Richard and Susan had children Susannah (1775) Charlotte (1778) Amelia (1779) Betty (1781) Anne (1790) Wiliam (1792) Emmanuel (1787) and Thomas (1772)- is this right?

Best wishes

Carolyn

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You enquired about the transcript 1670 - 1799. This has not been used yet to check the records on site, but I did check it for Aston baptisms around 1721 and found that no records existed from 1720-1723, there is also a 2 year gap in the parish register at the same time. The only remaining possibility is to check the IGI. I plan to photograph this sometime next year and to use it to update the Newland registers, but it is juist one of a long list of things to do!!

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Hi Graham

Thanks for looking up the Aston births around 1721 on the 1670 - 1799 transcript - I think I've come to a dead end here ...

Best wishes

Carolyn

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I have just had a look at the Mormon website (familysearch) and I find that you can borrow films of the Newland Bishops Transcripts through your local Mormon family History centre. I would recommend trying this, to find the nearest centre to you go to www.familysearch.org click on Library, then Family History Centres and fill in the form to find the one closest to you. I have used them in the past and always found them extremely helpful.

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With reference to Grahams advice, the film no required to view BT's for Newland is 425476, I have veiwed this film not that easy to read and early stuff is in Latin.

You will find Edward Aston under Edvardous Assen for 1721 in IGI Familysearch.

A few years back you could search with an asterick in name box but this search does not work now. Another way to find all children for Edward & Sarah is to use the parents side. Putting in Edward Aston and Sarah the region, county and time frame will bring up their children the soundex does not bring up Assen so will need to do both searches.

Good luck....Gill

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Hi Carolyn

I have a James Aston in my Family Tree born 20.10.1825 Ruardean baptised 25.6.1826 Ruardean he married Jane. The reason he is in my family tree is that his daughter Rhoda born West Dean 1864, died 23.5.1908, buried 28.5.1908 Ruardean was the first wife of John Hubert Marfell born 5.6.1861 son of Benjamin Marfell & Elizabeth Mason (picture on this web site)

James Aston was a Colliery Manager in 1881, see census data :

1881 Census
Dwelling: Edge End
Census Place: West Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1342259 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5225 Folio 87 Page 15
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
James ASTON M 54 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Colliery Manager
Jane ASTON M 55 F West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Emanuel ASTON U 19 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Weighman At Colliery
George ASTON U 16 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Rhoda ASTON U 16 F West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Daur
James ASTON M 43 M Newland, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Wood Cutter
Harriet ASTON M 41 F West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Tom ASTON 13 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Milson ASTON 10 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William ASTON 8 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Albert ASTON 5 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Oliver ASTON 3 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
George ASTON 6 m M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son

There is a CD available from Forest of Dean Local History Society which lists the Free Miners and details fatalities. On the CD there is a James Aston registered as a Free Miner 2.1.1875 Address Edge End, nr. Coleford ID 1404 aged 49 = born 1826. You will note another James Aston on the 1881 Census above, obviously not a son with a 10 year gap, but maybe a brother. Interestingly on the CD there is another James Aston Registered as a Free Miner 8.1.1875 Address Hawthorns nr. Drybrook ID 1439 aged 39 = born 1836. There are no fatality records for a James Aston on the CD.

Jim Ashton

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Year 1845
Month Nov
Day 15

Groom Surname ASTON
Groom Forename(s) James
Groom Age at Marriage 21
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Christchurch
Groom Father's Surname Aston
Groom Father's Forename(s) Edward
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Bride Surname SMITH
Bride Forename(s) Jane
Bride Age at Marriage 21
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence Christchurch
Bride Father's Surname Smith
Bride Father's Forename(s) James
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Licence or Banns [not stated]
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both mark
Witness 1 Mark of George Thomas
Witness 2 Mark of Emma Smith
Other witnesses None
Officiating Minister Tho. R. Garnsey
Event type Marriage
Memoranda -
Transcriber's Notes -
Register Reference PFC82 IN 1/7
Page No 5
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

1851
James Aston abt 1826 Hoarthoms, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Aston abt 1826 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Edward Aston abt 1848 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Fanny Aston abt 1850 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriot Aston abt 1846 Joyford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1861 Lane End
James Aston abt 1825 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Aston abt 1825 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charlotte Aston abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Edward Aston abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Fanny Aston abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Aston abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
James Aston abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Matilda Aston abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Susan Aston abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1871
James Aston abt 1825 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Aston abt 1825 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Emmanuel Aston abt 1862 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Fanny Aston abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
George Aston abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
James Aston abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Job Aston abt 1868 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Rhoda Aston abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Susan Aston abt 1857 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1881
James Aston abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean
Jane Aston abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Emanuel Aston abt 1862 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
George Aston abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Rhoda Aston abt 1865 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

1891
James Aston abt 1826 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Aston abt 1825 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
James Aston abt 1859 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
George Aston abt 1865 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1901
James Aston Jabt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Lydia Aston abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
James Aston abt 1826 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Father West Dean Monmouthshire

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I suspect this is James in 1841 in Nailbridge/Drybrook (??)
1841
Aaron Marfell abt 1812 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire Farmer
Sarah Marfell abt 1809 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Charlotte Constant Marfell abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
George Marfell abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Marfell abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Timmithy Marfell abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
William Marfell abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
James Atton abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Margrett Baldwin abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

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Hi Slowhands

I also suspect this is the same James Aston, however there is no close connection between Aaron Marfell and Benjamin Marfell who was the father of John Hubert Marfell who married Rhoda Aston. Aaron & Benjamin Marfell were 2nd cousins twice removed. If he was in the household, I am afraid I didn't record the specific detail as per my notes :

1841 Census Drybrook
Aaron Marfell 29 Farmer
Sarah 32
Charlotte Constance 7
William 5
Timothy 3
Sarah Ann 1
George 2 mths
+ 2 Servants

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A suspect for Jane SMITH

Year 1825
Month Apr
Day 24

Parents Surname SMITH
Child Forename(s) Jane
Father's Forename(s) James
Mother's Forename(s) Sarah
Mother's Surname

Place of Residence Berry Hill
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister T.R. Garnsey Incumbent
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P82 IN 1/1
Page No 42
Parish/Chapel Christchurch

1841 Joyford
John Baglin abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Jane Baglin abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Jane Smith abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

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Hi Slowhands

Thanks for all the information. I think the James Aston b 1826 living with the Marfells in 1841 is a different 'Aston' as our James Aston was living aged 15 with his mother, Susan, remarried to Henry Heath.

But I was interested to have all the info on the other James Aston b 1836 (son of James and Eliza)who married Harriet and I'll try and see where he fits in earlier.

Best wishes

Carolyn

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Hi Jim

Thanks for the information, and I am very pleased to hear about Rhoda. I was aware of Rhoda - she is the sister of our Aston Grandfather James b 1858 ie the Great Aunt of my husband. I thought she was rather interesting as I believe although she was born on 5 Nov 1865 she was not christened until 14 Apr 1881 (Forest of Dean records). And I didn't know what happened to her after that - the photo of her in-laws is fascinating, are you descended from the Marfells?

And thanks for the info on James the Freeminer registered 2.1.1875 (my husband's Great Grandfather). I don't think the other James you mention is a close relative although he may well be related from way back (there are so many Astons in the Forest of Dean!)

Best wishes

Carolyn

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Hi Carolyn

Yes I am connected to the Marfell family, my grandmother was Jane Kate Marfell, born Drybrook 27.7.1888 Drybrook - picture on the web site. With regard to Rhoda and John Hubert Marfell, I have the marriage certificates to both his wives, and can send you the Rhoda marriage certificate if you email me via the link here. The interesting thing is that one of the witnesses to his marriage to Rhoda Aston was Clara Yemm who became his second wife. Clara Yemm being the daughter of William Yemm and Lydia Marfell. Clara Yemm's first marriage was to Edward Dutton in 1885. If you want to be really morbid, I can also email you the gravestone images for Rhoda & Clara. The inscription for Rhoda reads "In fragrant memory of Rhoda wife of John Hubert MARFELL, died May23 1908, also of the above named who died Feb 28 1937 and of Nellie MARFELL, died July 2 1978 aged 80 years."

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Hi Jim

Thanks for all the info - and the rather nice inscription for Rhoda 'In fragrant memory ...'. I'm trying to draw up a family tree for my sister in law's Xmas Present so I'm rather short of time and have to concentrate on the direct Aston line - but I keep getting side tracked with all the interesting people I meet along the way - (the Marfell clan in the website photo look a very handsome lot!)

Best wishes

Carolyn

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1841
James Aston abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Eliza Aston abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
James Aston abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Roda Aston abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
William Aston abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1851
James Arton abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean Gloucestershire

1861
James Aston abt 1838 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriett Aston abt 1839 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Aston abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1871 Hawthorns Tump
James Aston abt 1837 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Aston abt 1839 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Henry Aston abt 1860 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Aston abt 1865 Edge End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Milson Aston abt 1870 Edge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Aston abt 1868 Edge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1881
James Aston abt 1838 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Aston abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Albert Aston abt 1876 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
George Aston West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Milson Aston abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Oliver Aston abt 1878 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Tom Aston abt 1868 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
William Aston abt 1873 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1891
James Aston abt 1836 Lonk, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Albert Aston abt 1876 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
George Aston abt 1880 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Milson Aston abt 1872 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Oliver Aston abt 1878 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
William Aston abt 1874 Hedge End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

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Hi Carolyn

I am also a descendant of the Aston Family!
Philip Aston abt. 1855 and Mary abt. 1659 (My 9xG Grandparents)
Edward Aston abt. 1681 and Sarah abt. 1689 (My 8xG Grandparents)
Edward Aston abt. 1720 and Patient abt. 1723 (My 7XG Grandparents)
Richard Aston b. 1745 and Susannah Evans abt. 1750 (My 6XG Grandparents)
Emmanuel Aston b. 1787 and Elizabeth Rudge b. 1786 (My 5xG Grandparents)
Richard Aston b. 1816 and Phoebe Ann Morgan abt. 1825 (My 4XG Grandparents)
Eliza Aston abt. 1855 and Amos Smith b. 1854 (My 3xG Grandparents)

I descend through their daughter Maria Smith (My 2XG Grandmother).

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Hi Jo How nice to hear from you! I've got Richard (1745)and Susannah's descendants on my tree ('The Aston Woodcutters')and I knew Richard (1816) m Phoebe Ann but I didn't know her surname was Morgan so that is very helpful. My husband is descended from Richard (1745)'s brother Thomas and Anne who have an enormous clan (all miners so 'The Aston Miners'). There's certainly a lot of Aston's in the Forest of Dean

Best wishes

Carolyn

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