HAGGAR and SMITH

This was a new name to the Forest and arrived circa 1911, where I have recorded 8 names in the birth register 3 were triplets in 1917.

If any one has information on the surname Haggar for this area, parents likely to be a George Haggar & ? Parsons.

George born 1881 in Balham, Surrey was son of Thomas Haggar & Emma Smith.

Emma born 1853 Lane End, daughter of Elisha Smith & Eliza Teague.

Does anyone recognise this family

Gill Webb

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1841 nr Five Acres
Elisha Smith abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Eliza Smith abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Smith abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Jane Smith abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire

1851
Elizabeth Smith abt 1812 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Smith abt 1812 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Ann Smith abt 1838 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Benjamin Smith abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
James Smith abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Smithabt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Jeremiah Smith abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Lydia Smith abt 1842 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Wm Smith abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1861
Elisha Smith abt 1812 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Smith abt 1816 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Benjamin Smith abt 1851 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Emma Smith abt 1854 Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Fanny Smith abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
James Smith abt 1849 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Jeremiah Smith abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Tom Smith abt 1844 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1871
Emma Smith abt 1853 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Visitor St Marylebone London

Name: Emma Smith
Name: Thomas Haggar
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 903

1881
Thomas Haggar abt 1848 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Streatham London
Emma Haggar abt 1854 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Streatham London
Emily R. Haggar abt 1878 Waterford, Ireland Daughter Streatham London
Henry John Haggar abt 1876 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London
William T. Haggar abt 1880 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London
William Haggar abt 1864 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Brother Streatham London

Name: George Frederick Haggar
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: _48a

1891
Thomas Hagger abt 1848 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Streatham London
Emma Hagger abt 1854 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Streatham London
Emily R Hagger abt 1878 Waterford, Ireland Daughter Streatham London
George F Hagger abt 1882 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London
Henry J Hagger abt 1876 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London
Herbert E Hagger abt 1884 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London
William T Hagger abt 1880 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London

1901
Thomas Haggar abt 1848 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Streatham London
Emma Haggar abt 1854 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Wife Streatham London
Emily R Haggar abt 1878 Ireland Daughter Streatham London
George F Haggar abt 1882 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London
Herbert E Haggar abt 1882 Balham, Surrey, England Son Streatham London

Name: Jenny Parsons
Name: George Hagger
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1010

Gladys S Haggar 1912 Apr-May-Jun Monmouth (1837-1939) Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Lilian M Haggar 1914 Jan-Feb-Mar Monmouth (1837-1939) Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Ellen M Haggar 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Monmouth (1837-1939) Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Ethel A Haggar 1917 Jul-Aug-Sep Monmouth (1837-1939) Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Frederick H Haggar 1917 Jul-Aug-Sep Monmouth (1837-1939) Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Winifred E Haggar 1917 Jul-Aug-Sep P Monmouth (1837-1939) Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire

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no more no less !

1901
Fredk J Parsons abt 1856 Deptford, London, England Head Deptford St Paul London
Catherine Parsons abt 1862 Deptford, London, England Wife Deptford St Paul London
Edie Parsons abt 1887 Deptford, London, England Daughter Deptford St Paul London
Fredk J Parsons abt 1882 Deptford, London, England Son Deptford St Paul London
Henry C Parsons abt 1889 Deptford, London, England Son Deptford St Paul London
Jennie Parsons abt 1885 Deptford, London, England Daughter Deptford St Paul London
Lily Parsons abt 1897 Deptford, London, England Daughter Deptford St Paul London
May Parsons abt 1896 Deptford, London, England Daughter Deptford St Paul London

1891
Frederick J Parsons abt 1857 Deptford, Kent, England Head St Paul Deptford London
Catherine Parsons abt 1863 Deptford, Kent, England Wife St Paul Deptford London
Annie E Parsons abt 1891 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter St Paul Deptford London
Edith C Parsons abt 1887 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter St Paul Deptford London
Eliza J F Parsons abt 1885 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter St Paul Deptford London
Frederick J Parsons abt 1882 Deptford, Kent, England Son St Paul Deptford London
Henry C Parsons abt 1889 Deptford, Kent, England Son St Paul Deptford London

Name: Eliza Jane F Parsons
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Greenwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1026

Name: Catharine Rayman
Name: Frederick James Parsons
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Greenwich
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1352

1881
Mary Parsons abt 1828 Kent Road, Surrey, England Head Deptford St Paul London
Frederick Parsons abt 1856 Deptford, Kent, England Son Deptford St Paul London
Alice Andrews abt 1869 Deptford, Kent, England Niece Deptford St Paul London

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Many thanks for all this information, it is only recently that I have discovered they came to the Coleford area.

I wasn't sure if it was the right family, but have now found an MI for a George Haggar at Christchurch for 1936, so am now confident it is, thanks for all your help.

I would now like to find descendants of George & Jenny, I have looked on this site for parish records, without luck. I know some must of stayed because there are deaths registered for Forest of Dean on Ancestry.

Gill Webb

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If you use your best detective skills and check BT directiory enquiries

http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha

for Haggar in GL16 ( Coleford) two names and addresses are listed :-)

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THOMAS HAGGAR
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY KNIGHTS
Marriage: 18 DEC 1790 Barkway, Hertford, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
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Sheet: 00

GEORGE HAGGAR
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 JUL 1796 Barkway, Hertford, England
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Parents:
Father: THOS. HAGGAR
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C072111 1538 - 1837 0991306 Film 6903171 Film
Sheet: 00

1841
George Haggen abt 1796 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
Susan Haggen abt 1798 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
George Haggen abt 1833 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
John Haggen abt 1819 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
Joseph Haggen abt 1830 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
Thomas Haggen abt 1825 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
William Haggen abt 1822 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire
Thomas Haggen abt 1756 Hertfordshire, England Barkway Hertfordshire

Name: Ruth Malton/Malyon
Name: William Hagger
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Royston
County: Cambridgeshire, Essex, Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 673

1851
William Hagger abt 1824 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Barkway Hertfordshire
Ruth Hagger abt 1824 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Wife Barkway Hertfordshire
Sarah Hagger abt 1850 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Barkway Hertfordshire
Thos Hagger abt 1848 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire

1861
William Hagger abt 1823 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Barkway Hertfordshire
Ruth Hagger abt 1824 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Wife Barkway Hertfordshire
Elizebeth Hagger abt 1853 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Barkway Hertfordshire
George Hagger abt 1796 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Barkway Hertfordshire
Henrey Hagger abt 1859 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire
Sarah Hagger abt 1850 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Barkway Hertfordshire
Thomas Hagger abt 1848 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire

1871
William Hagger abt 1823 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Head Barkway Hertfordshire
Ruth Hagger abt 1824 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Wife Barkway Hertfordshire
Henry Hagger abt 1858 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire
John Hagger abt 1862 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire
Thomas Hagger abt 1848 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire
William Hagger abt 1864 Barkway, Hertfordshire, England Son Barkway Hertfordshire

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Many thanks, have made great strides with family, will take your advise, but do rather prefer for people to come forward on there own, although sometimes they need a little nudge.

Gill Webb

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agreed thats one reason I elected not to "publish" the details, a google search for haggar + coleford also gets current results

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Gill I had an uncle Bert Haggar who married Dorothy Ward. Her sister Pearl married Kenneth Parsons who recently died. Of these 4 only Pearl is living. Pearl and Dorothy are my mothers sisters.

On the subject of Haggars - Dorothy and Bert Haggar who lived in Worrall Hill, nr.Lydbrook had 3 children: Doreen, David and Jane.

Kenneth and Pearl Parsons had : Jenny, Robert, Christopher and Roger (the latter being twins)

If you require further information please contact me.
Regards

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