Samuel Jones family in 1851 Census near Newland (General)
by Karaka 
, New Zealand, Wednesday, December 12, 2007, 15:12 (6193 days ago)
Looking for the children of Samuel (1802-1890) and Maria Jones (1805-1887) the parents are known to have been in the Platwell House/Newland area in 1851 Census.
Louisa B1835, Albert B1837, Josaih B1839, Jonah or Sarah B1840, Milson B1842, George B1845, Frances Eliza B1846.
Hoping to establish who lived to adulthood, several family members left for New Zealand in the period 1861-1865.
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by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 08:09 (6192 days ago) @ Karaka
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by Karaka , New Zealand, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 09:22 (6192 days ago) @ slowhands
Thanks for pointing me to this post, I knew it was there somewhere, I have had to return to this listing to cross-check some records. Jones is not an easy surname to work with in this area.
I think I have re-conciled all NZ family members except Josaih Jones B1839 who appears in the 1841 census, Josaih is missing from the 1851 Census but who re-appears in 1861. He was aged 12 in 1851 so perhaps on the verge of leaving home to work elsewhere. His older brother Albert B1837 also disappears from the 1851 family listing but he was more likely to have left home in GLS but did not come to NZ.
Josaih is known to be one of those who came to New Zealand in the period 1861-1865.
He married and worked as a farmer in NZ, so was probably working on a farm before he left GLS.
Are the names Josaih and John interchangable?
Is 12 too early to have left home/school, was he likely to be working as a servant in another home or farm?
Josiah in 1851 ?
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 09:36 (6192 days ago) @ Karaka
1851
Samuel Jones abt 1803 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire
Mana [MARIAH] Jones abt 1806 Haresfield, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Josiah Jones abt 1840 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Louisa Jones abt 1835 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Milton Jones abt 1842 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland Gloucestershire
Josiah in 1851 ?
by shepway , Thursday, December 13, 2007, 12:11 (6192 days ago) @ slowhands
This is the entry from GFHS transcript:
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
2444 0038 072 Platwell House JONES Samuel HD M 48 Shoemaker & Farms 60A.E1L GLS Newland
2444 0038 072 Platwell House JONES Maria WI M 45 Farmer's Wife GLS Huesfield [Hewelsfield]
2444 0038 072 Platwell House JONES Louesa DA U 16 Assists Mother GLS Newland
2444 0038 072 Platwell House JONES Jonah SO - 11 Scholar GLS Newland
2444 0038 072 Platwell House JONES Milson SO - 9 Scholar GLS Newland
2444 0038 072 Platwell House JONES George SO - 5 Scholar GLS Newland
I have looked at the original and believe Jonah should read Josiah and have flagged it to GFHS.
Mike
Josiah in 1851 ?
by Karaka , New Zealand, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 13:03 (6192 days ago) @ shepway
Looking at the 1851 census original, could it also be that Louesa is Louisa, as in the baptism 15 March 1835 in Clearwell.
Louisa in 1851
by shepway , Thursday, December 13, 2007, 21:27 (6192 days ago) @ Karaka
I have looked at the entry and it is written as Louesa.
This not unusual as the spelling is often as the name sounds.
Mike
Josiah in 1851 ?
by Karaka , New Zealand, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 13:12 (6192 days ago) @ slowhands
As a matter of interest, the Milton name here is in fact Milson, I have no access to the original 1851 census record but I note the GFHS transcript interprets it correctly as Milson, a name whose origin is unknown to me but one I personally have today so it goes back awhile. Is it Welsh or English?
Milson
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 20:08 (6192 days ago) @ Karaka
Milson was a popular name in the area.
As for meaning, I have seen a few thoughts - son of Miles, corruption of Miles Town...
I do wonder if Milton (from Mill Town, settlement near a Mill) was the initial name that over time ( generations) became Milson, perhaps by local dialect.
Recorded in many forms including Milson, Millson, Millsom, Millsum, Melsom, Melsome and Melson,
this is an English surname. It is said to be a patronymic of the personal name Miles, itself originating
from the pre 8th century Anglo-Saxon Milo, from the German element "mil" meaning beloved or merciful.
The personal name was recorded in England before the Norman Invasion of 1066, but it was their entry
and useage which gave it its popularity in the medieval period.
Albert Jones
by shepway , Thursday, December 13, 2007, 12:08 (6192 days ago) @ Karaka
This would appear to be Albert's burial:
Entry Number 521
Year 1843
Month May
Day 25
Surname JONES
Forename(s) Albert
Place of Residence Clearwell?
Age at death 6 years
Officiating Minister J G Smythies
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P278 IN 1/19
Page No 66
Parish/Chapel St Briavels
Mike