Philip Baldwin - Dead End - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

So after a flying start on my grandfathers family; I'm on my second brick wall on my Grandmothers.

Philip Baldwin ..... born about 1855 died 1877

Have found a record of his mother and brother in the 1861 Census:

Mary Baldwin age 39, so born about 1822
Hurbert Baldwin age 11, born about 1850

They are lodging with a William Griffiths (widow), although the census states she's married.

I think I've found a record of her burial in the Parish records at Bream; but haven't been able to find Hurbert or Philip in the baptiam records currently online.

Also, can anyone point me in the right direction for newspaper clippings photo's etc?? I've found one called Sun Green, where i found an old newspaper article about my Granfy but would like to find more if poss. Have already put the call out to Aunties and Uncles to dig out those old photos and will submit any onceI have them scanned.

Thanks for all your help!!

Sue J

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Hi Sue

Possible birth registration for Philip on FreeBMD:

Philip Baldwin April-June 1855 Monmouth District Vol 11a Page 25

Haven't found a birth reg for Hurbert/Hubert/Herbert yet!

Chris

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http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=9124

This looks like Mary :-

1851 Bream Eves
George Baldwin abt 1817 Westdean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Baldwin abt 1822 Westdean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Caroline Baldwin abt 1843 Westdean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Baldwin abt 1846 Westdean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

George is buried April 3rd 1852 Bream

but then :-

1861
George Frowein abt 1820 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Frowein abt 1822 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Baldwin abt 1846 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

so maybe ?

1851
Ephraim Boldwin abt 1828 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amelia Boldwin abt 1831 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Boldwin abt 1822 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

maybe this is Hubert :-

Name: Albert Baldwin
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 26
Page: 93

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Slowhands .... you are amazing; and will definately look at these. Although if George Baldwin died in 1852 then he's not Philips father!! Mmmm ... think I may have to fork out for a copy birth certificate!!

Someone mentioned St. Catherines House in another post .... is this a suitable resource for family tree research, or are there better ones out there.

Am an absolute newbie to this, but after spending an entire weekend hunched over my computer am completely hooked .... and also very proud that my family have furresters for possibly over a 1000 years!!

Sue

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there are too many loose ends here - Mary would find it difficult to be in two places at once on 1861 census ( but not impossible people have been recorded at home and lodging before !) but following William Griffiths seems to help

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=8282#p8291
comes back to Hannah PREEST nee CULLIS....

1881
William Griffiths abt 1833 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Preest abt 1808 Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Anna Preest abt 1868 Mosely Green, Gloucestershire, England Grandchild West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
William Griffith abt 1831 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Griffith abt 1823 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Griffith abt 1853 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Phillip Griffith abt 1856 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Robert [HUBERT] Griffith abt 1850 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Pillowell
William Griffiths abt 1831 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Griffiths abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Baldwin abt 1822 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire
Hurbert Baldwin abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire
Philip Baldwin abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1851 Barracks
William Griffeths abt 1832 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1851 Upper Row, Whitcroft area
Ephraim Boldwin abt 1828 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Amelia Boldwin abt 1831 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Boldwin abt 1822 Whitecroft, Gloucestershire, England Lodger West Dean, Gloucestershire

1841 Bream Eves
Isaac Cullis abt 1792 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ann Cullis abt 1794 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Nancy Baldwin abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Ephrim Baldwin abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mary Baldwin abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Caroline Watkins abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

it needs a little more work to tie off

I would use the "official" Govt route to order your certs
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

there are others who offer to order on your behalf , lets just say they are a commercial enterpise :-)

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Year 1880
Month Aug
Day 3
Surname BALDWIN
Forename(s) Mary
Place of Residence Breams Eaves
Age at death 59
Officiating Minister J F Gosling
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P57 IN 1/17
Page No 131
Parish_Chapel Bream

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How bizarre .... I've been corresponding with Alison ( Looking for another branch of the Preest .... and yes related ....) and William Griffiths has collected another family waif!! ;-) who is related to Alison, after taking in my possible g-g-g-granny .... small world!

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lesson No 8 --- follow the Lodger; and you might just uncover the link :-)

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Sue,
A lot of this is above me but if it helps Hannah Preest nee Cullis is not the wife of my William Preest born 1808. His first wife was Betsy Phillips and second Mary Harris. Hannah Cullis has confused us before, see page 11 of the formum in entry re Eveline Evangelina Priest.
Hope this helps. Having great difficultly getting to grips with this new forum and if this (second message) doesn't appear will e mail you!
Alison

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Hi Alison

I have actually taken the plunge and ordered my first birth certificate, this being for Philip. I figure this will definately confirm the name of his Mother and her marital status when he was born. This is all very new to me, but I'm having a lot of fun!!

Sue

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..having fun

thats the important bit

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