Henry and Eliza BROWN, 5 acres - Forest of Dean FHT Forum

I am looking for info on henry brown and his wife eliza ?godwin.
they lived in the five acres area of the forest of dean and had children inc: edwin, maria, henry etc
any info would be gratefully appreciated as i have come to a brick wall!
many thanks,
lucy charles

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record_id 231
Entry No 231
Year 1834
Month May
Day 11
Groom Surname BROWN
Groom Forename Henry
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Residence H[undre]d of St Briavels
Bride Surname GODWIN
Bride Forename Eliza
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Residence of the same
Licence or Bann Banns
Signature or Mark He signs; she marks
Witness 1 Mark of William Matthews
Witness 2 Mark of Percy Godwin
Officiating Minister Anthony Ely Curate
Event Type Marriage
Transcriber's notes Second witness is female as entry reads Percy Godwin her mark
Register P1 in 1/9
Page No 77
Parish/Chapel Abenhall
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You may already have this info, but I have posted it so that other people know what time scale we are looking at.

Regards
Chris

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I noticed that one of the Witnesses was a female called Percy, and wondered if this should be Mercy. On checking the PRs I found this baptism:

record_id 114759
Entry No 107
Year 1830
Month Sep
Day 9
Parents Surname GODWIN
Child Forename Mercy
Father's Forename Francis
Mother's Forename Elizabeth
Place of Residence Coleford Lane End
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister TR Gurney
Event Type Baptism
Memoranda Aged 19 years
Register Ref 8212
Page No 14
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
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Could she be a sister of Eliza Godwin? In which case we now have the names of her parents.

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Ooh - this is getting better all the time! Baptism for Eliza (same parents). Looks like they had a 'job lot' on baptisms.

record_id 114760
Entry No 108
Year 1830
Month Sep
Day 9
Parents Surname GODWIN
Child's Forename Eliza
Father's Forename Francis
Mother's Forename Elizabeth
Place of Residence Lane End
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister T R Gurney
Event Type Baptism
Memoranda Aged 17 years
Register Ref 8212
Page No 14
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
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So born around 1813

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...and there's more...

record_id 114758
Entry No 106
Year 1830
Month Sep
Day 5
Parents Surname GODWIN
Child Forename Jane
Father's Forename Francis
Mother's Forename Elizabeth
Place of Residence Coleford Lane End
Officiating Minister T R Garnsey
Event Type Baptism
Register Ref 8212
Page No 14
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
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record_id 114761
Entry No 109
Year 1830
Month Sep
Day 9
Parent's Surname GODWIN
Child Forename Richard Thomas
Father's Forename Francis
Mother's Forename Elizabeth
Place of Residence Lane End
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister T R Garnsey
Event Type Baptism
Register Ref 8212
Page 14
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
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record_id 88690
Entry No 516
Year 1859
Month June
Day 8
Surname GODWIN
Forename Francis
Place of Residence Lane End
Age at death 79
Officiating Minister W H Taylor
Event Burial
Register Reference P82 in 1/13
Page 65
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
Soundex G350

There are several possible burials for Elizabeth but none in Christchurch. This one jumps out at me because this EG was buried in June 1830, just 3 months before all the children were baptised. Perhaps this is where she was from?

record_id 91777
Entry No 275
Month June
Day 17
Surname GODWIN
Forename Elizabeth
Place of Residence Coleford
Age at death 39
Officiating Minister Yate Fosbroke Curate
Event Burial
Register Reference P278 in 1/19
Page 35
Parish/Chapel St Briavels
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Would someone mind doing a couple of census checks please? We could do with knowing if Elizabeth was still alive in 1841/51/61. Thanks

Also still looking for info on Henry Brown (have his burial) and marriage of Francis & Elizabeth Godwin.

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record_id 3768
Entry No 11
Year 1892
Month May
Day 8
Surname BROWN
Forename Henry
Place of Residence Five Acres
Age at death 77
Officiating Minister C Barnes Vicar
Event Burial
Register Ref P82 in 1/5
Page 2
Parish/Chapel
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Making him born about 1815, and married at 19 ish.

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1841 ex Parocial nr Lane End / Five Acres
Henry Brown abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Eliza Brown abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Eliza Brown abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emma Brown abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Brown abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851 Five Acres
Benjamen Brown abt 1815 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Brown abt 1814 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Brown abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Brown abt 1848 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Brown abt 1836 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
James Brown abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Brown abt 1850 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1861
Henery Brown abt 1813 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Brown abt 1811 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edith Brown abt 1855 Five Acus, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Brown abt 1848 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Brown abt 1836 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Brown abt 1853 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
George Brown abt 1856 Five Acus, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henery Brown abt 1860 Five Acus, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Marriah Brown abt 1851 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

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Thanks Slowhands

record_id 88396
Entry No 224
Year 1850
Month June
Day 18
Surname GODWIN
Forename Richard Thomas
Place of Residence Lane End
Age at death 22
Officiating Minister J Banks A M P C
Event Burial
Register Ref P82 in 1/13
Page 28
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
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So born about 1828

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Age ties in with birth date of 1811.

record_id 89453
Entry No 463
Month Feb
Day 11
Surname POWELL
Forename Mercy
Place of Residence Lane End
Age at death 71
Officiating Minister W H Taylor
Event Burial
Register Ref PFC82 in 1/4
Page 58
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
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I can't find a marriage for Mercy. Can anyone find her on a census please?

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I think this is going to be the problem!

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There are no records prior to this date because the Church did not open until 1814.
Nearest parishes are English Bicknor and Staunton but as much of the Forest was extra parochial in the early 1800's ancestors could turn up anywhere.

Mike

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Thanks Mike - I did wonder about that!

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ancestors could turn up anywhere.

and they frequently do !!!!

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Hi Slowhands

Henry Brown doesn't want to turn up anywhere!

As he didn't have his own children baptised until years after they were born, I am wondering if his parents didn't get Henry baptised either. It seems there were an enclave of Brown's in Lane End, so I guess he must belong to somebody down there.

Where did Francis Godwin marry Elizabeth? Did he even marry her at all?
Do any of the census's give a clue to where he was born? There appeared to be a lot of Godwins at St Briavels.

Who is the Powell that Mercy married? The only marriage I can find is between a James Powell & Mercy THOMAS at Hewelsfield in 1837. A James Powell was witness to a marriage in Christchurch.

Too many questions; too few answers!

Kind Regards
Chris

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This entry from GFHS Marriage Index:
9 September 1811 Francis GODWIN married Elizabeth THOMAS by Banns at St. Briavels.

Mike

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Gold star for Mike - spot on for date!

It also explains why Mercy was married as a Thomas not a Godwin.

Thankee kindlee
Chris

record_id 28005
Entry No 127
Year 1837
Month April
Day 13
Groom Surname POWELL
Groom Forename James
Groom Condition Bachelor
Groom Residence Extraparochial
Bride Surname THOMAS
Bride Forename Mercy
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Residence Extraparochial
Licence or Banns Banns
Signature or Mark Both Mark
Witness 1 Mary Imm
Witness 2 Peter Darby
Officiating Minister Yate Fosbroke Curate
Event Type Marriage
Register Reference P175 in 1/5
Page No 43
Parish/Chapel Hewelsfield
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Year: 1782
Month: Jun
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: GODWIN
Child_Forenames: Francis
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Edmunds Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P278 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: St Briavels

Year: 1818
Month: May
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: GODWIN
Child_Forenames: Grace
Fathers_Forenames: Francis
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Col[e]ford
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Thomas
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: aged 2 years
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 31
Parish_Chapel: Coleford

1841 Coleford Meend
Francis Godwin abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Jane Godwin abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Richard Godwin abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
William Godwin abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
William Addis abt 1817 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Grace Addis abt 1819 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Henry Addis abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Marianne Addis abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Francis Godwin abt 1784 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Father-in-law West Dean, Gloucestershire

Year 1859
Month Jun
Day 8
Surname GODWIN
Forename(s) Francis
Place of Residence Lane End
Age at death 79
Officiating Minister W.H.Taylor
Event Burial
Cause of death
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P82 IN 1/13
Page No 65
Parish_Chapel Christchurch

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Well done Slowhands. You give me one answer and then another question!
It looks like wife Eliza had died pre-1841 (unless she was round the shops when the enumerator called). But who is William Godwin? If he was another son (b 1832) then Eliza must still have been around.

This is 'doing my head in' and it is not even my posting!

TTFN
Chris

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1841
James Powell abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Mercy Powell abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emma Powell abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Henry Powell abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Thomas Powell abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

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Henry and Eliza BROWN, 5 acres (General)

Marriage of Henry & Eliza 1834

Baptism of Mercy Godwin 1830

Baptism of Eliza Godwin also 1830

Baptism of Jane & Richard Godwin also 1830

Burial of Francis Godwin 1859

Burial of Henry Brown 1892

Henry BROWN 1814 ish Lane End

Burial of Richard Godwin 1850

Burial of Mercy Godwin (Powell) 1882?

No Christchurch records prior to 1814 on site

No Christchurch records prior to 1814 on site

No Christchurch records prior to 1814 on site

No Christchurch records prior to 1814 on site

But where is 'enery?

But where is 'enery?

Marriage for Mercy Thomas & James Powell 1837

Francis GODWIN 1782 - 1859

Francis GODWIN 1782 - 1859

Mercy POWELL nee Godwin 1811- 1882