Parents of James MANN b abt 1811

trying to find parents of james mann b abt 1811 charles b abt 1809 and henry b? james married isabella voyce 1847.areas i have for the family are westbury..awre..blakeney...parkend..james mann b 1852 married louisa beach and moved the family to merthyr tydfil around 1870..would appreciate any info and contact from david mann..problems cotacting him via aol..and a big thank you to bertha for all your help..liz ..sorry parents of james b 1811 was william mann and mary thats all i have to go on at the moment..thanks

The Parish Transcripts give two possibilities as you know for William's marriage.Either to Ann Holford or Mary Niblett.
There are also two likely candidates for William's death - 1845 aged 77 or 1855 aged 72.
There is a burial for a Mary Mann in 1866 aged 70 at Awre.(a birth around 1796 would eliminate either of the above marriages so cannot be her but maybe an unmarried sister for James or other relative).
The 1851 census for Westburry gives a William Maun/Mann (71) born Hartpury with Mary (56)born Westbury and a granddaughter Hannah (2). Her age would not be compatible with a marriage in 1804.
The 1851 census for Awre gives Charles Mann (42) born Churcham with wife Harriet and Mary Mann - widow aged 67 born Westbury. That would agree with birth of Mary Niblett in 1783 (My real interest). That could make Charles a brother for James and Henry - the dates fit but on first look I couldn't find a suitable parish transcript for a baptism. His designation on censuses changes between birthplace at Churcham and Westbury on Severn.
The 1841 census of Awre has William (Mance on Ancestry) aged 70 and Mary aged 55 with James aged 25. This date would again be compatible with Mary Niblett given the rounding up and down of the 1841 census.
For me the evidence would tend towards Mary Niblett being his wife but it may never be provable.

thanks philip it certainly seems to make sense, thanks for your time and effort i really appreciate it..buffylewis

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Having checked the Gloucestershire Family History Society marriage index their marriage transcript has William MORRIS and not MANNS. I have submitted a request for this to be checked so that we can be certain as to which is correct.
Phil

hi philip, thanks hopefully it shall be made clear.as to ann box holford she remarried in 1811 which stated she was a widow.all points to mary but as you say difficult to prove..buffylewis

Following my query I have been sent an image of the marriage register and the name is William MANNS. One of the witnesses is Thomas Wood. In the 1841 census there is a Sarah WOOD aged 50 living with them.
Phil

Hi Liz
You had problems contacting me and I have problems replying to your email so replying here. When I read your email I thought this is great I know Isabella Voyce is part of my tree, but when I looked at my records I could not find her. Similarly I can't find James born abt. 1811. I suspect that at some time I had Isabella in the tree but later convinced myself that I had it wrong and removed her. I will keep looking.
David

Is there anyone with links to mann/manns family still living blakeney area forest of dean..i have james mann abt 1811 marr isabella voyce 1847..james mann abt 1852 marr louisa beach..emma mann abt 1860 marr john scrivens..charles mann marr mary underwood..elizabeth mann 1856 marr william beach...james/louisa and elizabeth/william left forest to live at troedyrhiw merthyr tydfil abt 1870's.would welcome any info as reaching dead end as to james 1811 parents/siblings..regards liz

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