William Henry JONES - Coleford (General)

by eirwen carey, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 08:12 (6137 days ago)

I am searching for any information regarding my Grand Father WILLIAM HENRY JONES BORN ABT 1880 in or around Coleford Gloucester. He married KATE ROBBINS(Robins sometimes spelt with 1B) 26th December 1903 in St John's Church Coleford. William Edward Martin & Louisa Robbins were witnesses at the wedding.

According to the marriage certificate at the time of the wedding William and Kate where living in the Whitecliff area of Coleford.

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by ChrisW @, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 11:31 (6137 days ago) @ eirwen carey

Available to view on this site:


record_id 11189
Entry No 3034
Year 1881
Month Oct
Day 16
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forenames William Henry
Father's Forename William
Mother's Forename Mirah
Place of Residence Coleford
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister H Proctor Vicar
Event Type Baptism
Memoranda Born Apr 2 1880
Register Reference P93 in 1/6
Page 143
Parish/Chapel Coleford
Soundex J520

Struggling with a baptism for William snr. It doesn't help that William Jones must be the most common name on the planet! His father was William Priday, so possibly illegitimate. I found three single Jones women who each had a son named William!

Also, Myra Beach was the daughter of Joseph & Eliza. She had 8 sisters and 1 brother. I can find all their baptisms but not hers.

Marriage of Parents of William Henry Jones:

record_id 13253
Entry No 408
Year 1870
Month Dec
Day 21
Groom Surname JONES
Groom Forename William
Age at marriage 21
Groom Condition Bachelor
Rank or Profession Labourer
Groom Residence Park End
Groom Father's Surname PRIDAY [sic]
Groom F.F. William
Rank or Profession Labourer
Bride Surname BEACH
Bride Forename Myra
Age at marriage 20
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Residence Whitecliff
Bride Father's Surname Beach
Bride F.F. Joseph
Rank or Profession Haulier
Licence or Banns Banns
Signature or Mark He marks; she signs
Witness 1 Mark of George Morris
Witness 2 Louisa Beach
Officiating Minister N Shafto Barthropp
Event Type Marriage
Register Ref P227 in 1/13
Page 204
Parish/Chapel Newland
Soundex Groom J520
Soundex Bride B200

Ye Gods, these Voresters are hard to vollow! I think I've got this right! Joseph & Eliza Beach's daughter Myra married William Jones in 1870. Another of their daughters (Ada) married Henry (Harry) Robins in 1884.
Myra & William's son was William Henry. Ada & Henry's daughter was Kate. So they were 1st cousins and married in 1903. The only discrepancy I can see is a difference in age of 4 years for Ada. She was baptised 13/09/1868 making her 16 when she married in 1884. However on the Parish Record it states she was 20.
Please feel free to correct me - I'm brain dead now!

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by eirwen carey, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 21:50 (6137 days ago) @ ChrisW

Thank you for the information this is my grandfather and also my great granfather the little bit of information that I had all matches, I will check on the information regarding Ada Beach.

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by gwrmad @, Caister on Sea Norfolk, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 23:57 (6137 days ago) @ ChrisW

I have mirah baptism as 8/10/1851 at Coleford.

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by gwrmad @, Caister on Sea Norfolk, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 00:42 (6137 days ago) @ gwrmad

Sorry about that the brain went ! Myra's sister Louisa married James Mann who was the son of James Mann & Isabella Voice.

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by eirwen carey, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 03:24 (6137 days ago) @ gwrmad

Thank you once again any information is a great help and support

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by eirwen carey, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 03:23 (6137 days ago) @ gwrmad

Thank you for the information every little bit helps with my search

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by rheola, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 09:20 (6136 days ago) @ eirwen carey

Hello Eirwen,
We've already been in touch, I've opened my tree for you on Genesreunited . With regard to William Henry Jones . I have William Henry Jones born 2/4/1880 and bap 16/10/1881, his parents were William Jones and Mirah Beach.I know your grandmother Kate Robins was my grandfather's sister,their mother was Ada Beach and Mirah was her sister .
I have Ada's birth certificate and she was born 24/6/1868 at Whitecliff. Ada married James Henry Robins (known as Henry) on 18/3/1884,her age on the certificate was 20yrs, but she was actually not yet 16!.
Another twist ....Henry's father (Henry snr )married Ada's mother on 31st Jan 1881....Henry and Ada were stepbrother and sister .
Back to William and Mirah...I think you mentioned the witness on Kate's marriage was a William Edward Martin , your Wiliam Henry had a sister, Louisa and I have a marriage for a Louisa to William Edward Martin on 5/1/1902 at Coleford , which would fit in for you .
Hope you can follow all this ,sometimes it's not easy to write it all down!!
regards rheola

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by eirwen carey, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 00:06 (6136 days ago) @ rheola

Thank you for the information

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by eirwen carey, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 00:11 (6136 days ago) @ ChrisW

You were right regarding Ada Beach parish records do have her as 20 years old but she was not quite 16 at the time of marriage.

How can I access the baptism records? Any idea how I can trace the mother's name for William Jones Snr (Birth father William Priday)

William Henry JONES - Baptism 1881

by ChrisW @, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 00:41 (6136 days ago) @ eirwen carey

Click on 'Parish Records' at the top of this page. Then click on 'Search Parish Records' when the new page comes up. Just complete the form with relevant names/dates and fire away. If you aren't sure of the year or parish leave the boxes blank and search all. You can search baptisms, marriages, burials, or all three.

I don't know if anyone else has any ideas how we can find William's mother?
I've tried looking for illegitimate William's born at the the time and there are three to choose from on the records. He might show up on a census but William Jones is a tad common name!

We need the advice of the experts now please!

A possible at Parkend:

record_id 50224
Entry No 689
Year 1848
Month Mar
Day 12
Parents Surname JONES
Child Forename William
Father's Forename
Mother's Forename Sarah
Place of Residence Bream Eaves
Occupation Single Woman
Officiating Minister Henry Poole
Event Type Baptism
Register Ref P245 in 1/10
Page 87
Parish/Chapel Parkend
Soundex J520

William Henry JONES 1880 - Coleford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 06:58 (6074 days ago) @ eirwen carey

1881 Albert Rd
William Jones abt 1850 Hasfield, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Maria Jones abt 1851 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Albert Jones abt 1874 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Amelia Jones abt 1872 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Lydia Jones abt 1876 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
William Jones abt 1880 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

1891
William Jones abt 1850 Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Mieah Jones abt 1851 Whitecliff, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Albert Jones abt 1874 Parhend, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Louisa Jones abt 1883 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Willie Jones abt 1880 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

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William JONES 1849 - Hasfield Glos

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 07:12 (6074 days ago) @ slowhands

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Hasfield/index.html


1841 Poor Houses
Edward Jones abt 1801 Hasfield, Gloucestershire
Sarah Jones abt 1796 Hasfield, Gloucestershire
Emma Jones abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Hasfield, Gloucestershire
Joyce Jones abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Hasfield, Gloucestershire


could be one of these !
William Jones 1848 Apr-May-Jun Tewkesbury Gloucestershire, Worcestershire
William Jones 1849 Oct-Nov-Dec Tewkesbury Gloucestershire, Worcestershire
William Henry Jones 1850 Apr-May-Jun Tewkesbury Gloucestershire, Worcestershire
William James Jones 1850 Apr-May-Jun Tewkesbury Gloucestershire, Worcestershire

1851
Edward Jones abt 1791 Bestford, Gloucestershire, England Head Hasfield, Gloucestershire
Sarah Jones abt 1792 Norton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Hasfield, Gloucestershire
William Jones abt 1844 Hasfield, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Hasfield, Gloucestershire
William Jones abt 1849 Sewkesbury Um in House, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Hasfield, Gloucestershire

1861
Edward Jones abt 1792 Besford, Worcestershire, England Head Hasfield, Gloucestershire
Sarah Jonesabt 1791 Norton, Worcestershire, England Wife Hasfield, Gloucestershire
William Jones abt 1849 Hasfield, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Hasfield, Gloucestershire

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William JONES 1849 - Hasfield Glos

by eirwen carey, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 21:49 (6073 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you I will check them out

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